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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#66776: Mar 7th 2017 at 7:43:45 PM
Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Arashi Shigehito
#66777: Mar 7th 2017 at 8:20:29 PM

So who was Riley then?

Let's see if you can get past my Beelzemon. Mephiles, WARP SHINKA!
SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Nightwire Since: Feb, 2010
#66779: Mar 7th 2017 at 9:53:38 PM

Sadly, he couldn't be his wingman any time...

KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#66780: Mar 7th 2017 at 10:01:10 PM

Goddamn it, I was just thinking that...

Oh God! Natural light!
Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#66781: Mar 7th 2017 at 11:48:11 PM

The relationship between Steve and Tony is more complicated that a friendship. From Tony's perspective Steve is the guy his father never shut up about, in a way the ideal Tony always had to live up to. Remember, Howard considered both Steve and Tony his creation. And just as Tony as found some closure with his father by understanding him a little bit better Steve turns up and basically tells Tony that he is worth nothing. This scene in The Avengers when they encounter each other the first time has to sting, but from Steve's perspective, Tony isn't the kind of lovable rogue, but an egoistic child because he sees him based on the conventions of his own time. Plus, he has to compare Tony to Howard. Tony giving up the leadership role to Steve and Steve respecting him as a hero at the end of The Avenger was huge. And then The Winter Soldier happened, the team reassembled and spend more than a year fighting Hydra. That does built a bond and then Ultron happened. In a way, Tony agrees to the accords not just because of Pepper, he also wants to please Steve, and the only thing he gets is his disapproval. And then he realizes that his "hero" who supposedly didn't have a dark side kept something huge from him.

Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#66783: Mar 8th 2017 at 6:38:54 AM

[up]Really hoping it pulls an Agents of SHIELD and picks up in the second half.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#66784: Mar 8th 2017 at 7:55:38 AM

What has me worried is the same guy is doing the Inhumans show.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#66785: Mar 8th 2017 at 8:21:20 AM

[up] We will have to wait and see...in the end, the writers are just as if not more important than the actual show runner.

I admit, I am still a little bit peeved that they picked such inept writers for Doctor Strange. This movie could have been amazing, but the writing really pulls it down on the middle-tier level when it comes to Marvel movie. Thankfully the actors are excellent and able to carry the weak script.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#66786: Mar 8th 2017 at 8:51:20 AM

If the guy captaining the ship just hit an iceberg on his previous voyage, that doesn't inspire confidence.

Marvel should've held off and waited to see if Iron Fist was any good before they hired him to do Inhumans as well.

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#66787: Mar 8th 2017 at 9:13:12 AM

If the guy captaining the ship just hit an iceberg on his previous voyage, that doesn't inspire confidence.
I'd hardly say that this is "hitting on iceberg." At most, reviewers are saying that the first six episodes are kind of boring and that's it. Honestly, I'm going to wait until I actually watch the show before making any judgments.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#66788: Mar 8th 2017 at 9:33:56 AM

I haven't seen any positive buzz so far, so yeah, not really excited now.

Thor, Hela and Valkyrie in new Ragnarok cover.

higherbrainpattern Since: Apr, 2012
#66789: Mar 8th 2017 at 9:48:44 AM

So it's hot garbage.

I feel vindicated as hell right now.

Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#66790: Mar 8th 2017 at 9:53:11 AM

I'm still hoping the second half is better.

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#66791: Mar 8th 2017 at 9:57:41 AM

So it's hot garbage. I feel vindicated as hell right now.
Perhaps wait until, I don't know, it's actually out and people can watch the entire thing.

BigBlackBangBro Time Stranger Since: Sep, 2016
Time Stranger
#66792: Mar 8th 2017 at 9:59:54 AM

My biggest fears about Iron Fist were the tone and having lackluster fight scenes. sad

35 year old white man.
DeathsApprentice The Ultimate Lifeform from The Ark Since: Aug, 2011 Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
The Ultimate Lifeform
#66793: Mar 8th 2017 at 10:01:25 AM
Thumped: This post was thumped by moderation to preserve the dignity of the author.
When we're done, there won't be anything left.
comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#66794: Mar 8th 2017 at 10:01:42 AM

Some minor plot details from Ragnarok:

When Hela is accidentally unleashed from her prison, she is not psyched. “She’s been locked away for millennia getting more and more cross, and then, with a mistake, she gets unleashed and she ain’t getting back in that box,” says Blanchett, who worked with legendary stuntwoman Zoë Bell (Grindhouse) and learned the Brazilian martial art capoeira to prep for the role. Her attack on Thor sends him to Sakaar where he is forced to become a gladiator and realizes he’s no longer super special. “[Sakaar is] basically where every wormhole across the universe dumps out its trash, so you get people from all walks of life with all sorts of incredible abilities and powers,” Hemsworth explains. “No one cares what prince or king Thor may have been in another world. Also, his strength is pretty easily matched with those he finds himself amongst.” Case in point: Sakaar’s most successful (and popular) fighter is The Hulk.

edited 8th Mar '17 10:02:03 AM by comicwriter

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#66795: Mar 8th 2017 at 10:02:26 AM

People were nervous about having Scott Buck on for a reason, it sucks because I really liked Iron Fist and Luke Cage.

At least the costumes seem pretty decent for Thor Ragnarok. Cate Blanchett looks great. Though I'm a little disappointed those BTS images wee all there was to it and Valkyrie's costume really is that plain, even if it did ditch the dumb steel ring boobcones.

higherbrainpattern Since: Apr, 2012
#66796: Mar 8th 2017 at 10:02:27 AM

@alliterator: Or, y'know, I can NOT do that because Iron Fist has awful fight scenes and Finn Jones's acting is a flop, and also because they show Danny Rand whitesplaining what kung fu is to Coleen Wing in her own goddamn dojo.

edited 8th Mar '17 10:02:44 AM by higherbrainpattern

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#66797: Mar 8th 2017 at 10:08:09 AM

Really? So you've actually seen the show and the scene in question? Man, I thought the show didn't come out until March 17.

SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Love is Love is Love
#66798: Mar 8th 2017 at 10:08:22 AM

Who has time to actually develop their own opinion when that's time that can be spent organizing an angry mob and being indignant?

My various fanfics.
BigBlackBangBro Time Stranger Since: Sep, 2016
Time Stranger
#66799: Mar 8th 2017 at 10:11:56 AM
Thumped: This post was thumped by moderation to preserve the dignity of the author.
35 year old white man.
LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#66800: Mar 8th 2017 at 10:15:51 AM
Thumped: for switching the discussion from the topic to a person. Doesn't take many of this kind of thump to bring a suspension. Stay on the topic, not the people in the discussion.
This song needs more love.

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