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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

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AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#66527: Feb 25th 2017 at 6:18:53 PM

I mean, if you're into politics, sure.

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RBluefish Since: Nov, 2013
#66528: Feb 25th 2017 at 6:19:15 PM

If the only way you can make your case is by misrepresenting the other side, then yeah, you don't have much of a case. That's just strawmanning and deflection.

Now, that's not the same thing as simply using their words against them - that's all good, because it's trapping them with logic. But twisting their words into something they never said, nah.

"We'll take the next chance, and the next, until we win, or the chances are spent."
VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#66529: Feb 25th 2017 at 6:20:51 PM

There's never a reason to broadcast your intention to leave a forum thread. It'll almost always read as some strange attempt to get the last word in.

FoxBoxKid Philosophy Enthusiast from California Republic Since: Oct, 2013
Philosophy Enthusiast
#66530: Feb 25th 2017 at 6:36:29 PM

Even if Valkyrie actually is the Enchantress in disguise, that doesn't necessarily mean Amora would also get a Race Lift.

Make mine Marvel.
RBluefish Since: Nov, 2013
#66531: Feb 25th 2017 at 6:38:32 PM

I certainly hope that that theory isn't true, because I'd rather not have the first ever non-green woman of color superhero to appear in an MCU film turn out to be an evil deceiver.

Building on that, I'd also hope that they don't pull a "she was white all along!" twist.

"We'll take the next chance, and the next, until we win, or the chances are spent."
comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#66532: Feb 25th 2017 at 7:00:34 PM

It is an artificial way of including minorities.

That argument will never not be bullshit. It's fiction. Everything is "artificial" and the result of a creative choice. One manner of introducing a more diverse character is not inherently more or less organic than any other. Which is moot any way since the director said he cast Thompson because he liked her audition, not because he decided off the bat Valkyrie had to be black.

I was thinking about Thor: Ragnarok and how odd it was that Skurge is in the movie without Amora.

Karl Urban says many of his scenes are with Cate Blanchett so actually, I'm just guessing Hela is a Composite Character with Enchantress in this version. Hela is probably the object of his obsession rather than Amora in this version.

edited 25th Feb '17 7:01:00 PM by comicwriter

RBluefish Since: Nov, 2013
#66533: Feb 25th 2017 at 7:17:47 PM
Thumped: This post was thumped by moderation to preserve the dignity of the author.
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Berrenta MOD Bejeweled (she/her) (Ten years in the joint) Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
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#66534: Feb 25th 2017 at 7:47:36 PM

Looks like things are getting way too heated in regards to the possible Race Lifting. Can we turn it down, please?

Guy01 Since: Mar, 2015
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#66536: Feb 25th 2017 at 8:40:49 PM

Why does Hulk have to be green? There's already more than enough green person representation. Why can't Hulk be race lifted to be grey? There's even precedent in the comics for it.

AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#66537: Feb 25th 2017 at 8:42:08 PM

Dude, we're past it, don't stir the pot.

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LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#66538: Feb 25th 2017 at 8:47:42 PM

Actually I would be totally down with Bruce becoming Joe Fixit after Infinity War.

edited 25th Feb '17 8:48:03 PM by LordVatek

This song needs more love.
SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Love is Love is Love
#66539: Feb 25th 2017 at 8:54:03 PM

More Hulk to the rescue.

My various fanfics.
AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#66540: Feb 25th 2017 at 8:58:00 PM

I wonder how they'd even come up with a plot where Hulk becomes Joe Fixit, to be honest.

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shatterstar Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: I wanna know about these strangers like me
#66541: Feb 25th 2017 at 9:05:02 PM

[up] Something that funny and interesting should be explored in a solo film. And we all know THAT won't happen with the right shenanigan.

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#66544: Feb 25th 2017 at 10:04:59 PM

OK, I laughed at all of that, nice job.

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MedusaStone Since: Jan, 2015
#66545: Feb 25th 2017 at 10:34:33 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mz77LWHXzM8

If they ever make a Black Widow movie I want this to be the trailer music.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#66546: Feb 26th 2017 at 6:08:04 AM

I really love the interpretation that Kevin Feige is apparently a cartoon German. "Ees evil Ant-Man."

AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#66547: Feb 26th 2017 at 9:13:59 AM

http://people.com/movies/bill-paxton-dead-complications-surgery-age-61/

Bill Paxton, who some of y'all might've known from being Agent Garret on Agents of SHIELD's first season, passed away after complications from a surgery.

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Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#66548: Feb 26th 2017 at 9:50:09 AM

How many actors from the MCU have died already? I think two, but I might miss some....

AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#66549: Feb 26th 2017 at 10:12:54 AM

Gary Shandling died, and I can't remember anyone else.

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eligram Since: Sep, 2009 Relationship Status: In denial
#66550: Feb 26th 2017 at 10:49:03 AM

So, after watching Doctor Strange again, I just noticed that he's still an OP character. He can trap anyone in the Mirror Dimension and win by default, as without the portal rings (it's that what is called?) , no one can escape.

Hell, what's stopping him of trapping Thanos in that dimension and call it a day in Infinity Wars?


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