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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#66401: Feb 16th 2017 at 11:29:21 PM

Who doesn't want to join a Marvel movie nowadays?

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#66402: Feb 17th 2017 at 7:50:17 AM

Production Weekly lists a Sub-Mariner project as in development, adding more fuel to the fire.

Some are speculating it may be the John Ridley show that's been talked about forever.

I mean, apparently Namor's film rights are back at Marvel, but I doubt they would make him an Inhuman since there is a very easy way to get out of calling him a mutant: call him an Atlantean.

That and the Inhuman push in the comics has pretty much crashed and burned at this point. There's no need to continue trying to Inhumanize non-Inhuman characters any longer.

edited 17th Feb '17 9:36:30 AM by comicwriter

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#66403: Feb 17th 2017 at 9:45:11 AM

Look, I just want an Invaders... something. They're not doing Marvel One Shots anymore (imo, that'd be the best venue for it), but c'mon - a plot that flashes back to WW 2, with Cap, the Original Human Torch (who we saw in The First Avenger), and Namor teaming up against Nazis?

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#66404: Feb 17th 2017 at 9:54:13 AM

Probably couldn't call him Human Torch even if it isn't the Johnny Storm one

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comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#66406: Feb 17th 2017 at 9:56:44 AM

That and the Inhuman push in the comics has pretty much crashed and burned at this point. There's no need to continue trying to Inhumanize non-Inhuman characters any longer.
Which they never really did in the first place. Despite numerous people speculating that Quicksilver and the Scarlet Witch were going to be Inhumans, neither one was. The only characters they turned Inhuman were more minor comics characters in Agents of SHIELD — like Daisy Johnson.

The big "Inhumanizing non-Inhuman characters" push never actually happened.

Probably couldn't call him Human Torch even if it isn't the Johnny Storm one
They actually might be able to, since this Human Torch predates the FF Human Torch. Maybe not, though, since Fox may have gotten the name outright. Still, they could just call him "the Torch," since he wasn't human anyway.

edited 17th Feb '17 9:58:13 AM by alliterator

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#66407: Feb 17th 2017 at 9:57:38 AM

Well he actually isn't a human.

He's a robit.

But probably can't do that because Ultron was the first true AI.

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alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#66408: Feb 17th 2017 at 9:59:15 AM

But probably can't do that because Ultron was the first true AI.
Eh, they can retcon that. Just say that Ultron was the first true AI that people knew about it.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#66409: Feb 17th 2017 at 9:59:56 AM

[up][up][up]I didn't say there was a big push to make non-Inhumans Inhumans. I said there was a big Inhuman push in the comics that coincided with them turning at least one mutant into an Inhuman in the TV show. I don't want that bullshit happening with Namor, and now that the Inhuman push in the comics is slowing down due to the fan response, (Thank God) there's less incentive to do such a thing.

If Marvel was only allowed to use Jessica Drew on the stipulation that she couldn't ever actually be called "Spider-Woman" or wear her spider-themed costume, I'm gonna guess there's no chance in hell Marvel could call him Human Torch.

[up][up]I read that in Zoidberg's voice.

edited 17th Feb '17 10:02:21 AM by comicwriter

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#66410: Feb 17th 2017 at 10:00:04 AM

Fair enough

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Unsung it's a living from a tenement of clay Since: Jun, 2016
it's a living
#66411: Feb 17th 2017 at 10:01:09 AM

*ahem Zola ahem*

I mean, I know, *true* AI. But technically Ultron's more Mind Stone jiggery-pokery, so who knows what constitutes actual human innovation and what's Infinity Stone magic anymore. The lines are blurred.

edited 17th Feb '17 10:01:25 AM by Unsung

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#66412: Feb 17th 2017 at 10:01:11 AM

Or they could call him Jim Hammond, make it seem like he's a human with powers or tech throughout the story, and have The Reveal be that he's an android.

Then he makes a Heroic Sacrifice, and Cap ensures that people remember him as a person rather than a machine. So he gets that statue (the only pic I could find, evil grin) we see in Avengers Initiative.

edited 17th Feb '17 10:05:58 AM by KnownUnknown

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#66413: Feb 17th 2017 at 10:06:03 AM

Also good

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comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#66414: Feb 17th 2017 at 10:06:29 AM

For all we know he's still sitting in that glass bubble at that science expo.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#66415: Feb 17th 2017 at 12:33:16 PM

Looks like Tony gets an Ultimate-inspired new look, at least going off the merchandise. Pretty ugly.

edited 17th Feb '17 12:33:41 PM by comicwriter

Unsung it's a living from a tenement of clay Since: Jun, 2016
it's a living
#66416: Feb 17th 2017 at 12:36:13 PM

Kinda looks like they want him to match Captain Marvel. I can live with it, if the decision's been made.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#66417: Feb 17th 2017 at 8:54:35 PM

That palette... Yikes, because the mech design itself is alright.

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#66418: Feb 17th 2017 at 9:12:05 PM

I'd wish they'd use the Modular Armor design one day.

MedusaStone Since: Jan, 2015
#66419: Feb 17th 2017 at 10:40:01 PM

That first pic looks like his fabrication machine ran out of paint halfway through.

KJMackley Since: Jan, 2001
#66420: Feb 17th 2017 at 11:52:03 PM

Exactly my thought, it looks like they quit midway through painting it.

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#66422: Feb 18th 2017 at 2:57:17 PM

That Daredevil suit looks upgraded.

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
shatterstar Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: I wanna know about these strangers like me
#66423: Feb 18th 2017 at 3:07:12 PM

[up][up] Now I know the reason JJ doesn't have much toys released. The toy looks as boring as hell.

AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#66424: Feb 18th 2017 at 3:07:57 PM

So does that mean the Punisher is gonna be in Defenders?

Have you any dreams you'd like to sell?
comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#66425: Feb 18th 2017 at 3:23:05 PM

[up][up]Probably also why the only character on Agents of SHIELD to get an action figure is Ghost Rider.


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