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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#66301: Feb 14th 2017 at 4:34:05 AM

Marvel and Scarlett Johansson Both Want a Black Widow Movie, Still Don't Do Anything About It

http://io9.gizmodo.com/marvel-and-scarlett-johansson-both-want-a-black-widow-m-1792298255

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#66302: Feb 14th 2017 at 5:17:11 AM

Kind of a misleading title....the gist of the article is that Sca Jo said in an interview that she and Kevin Feige meet about a Black Widow movie and are in agreement that one could work, but they first have to figure out where to fit it in the slate, both because of the Marvel slate and her own commitments.

You can read this two ways: It is either a polite way of saying "yeah, we won't rule it out, but don't hold your breath" or it actually a cause for celebration, since beforehand it wasn't really clear if Sca Jo would even want to star in one (she has always been very tight-lipped about her contract), and now she committed to the idea. Realistically speaking, even if they do decide to do a Black Widow movie, I wouldn't want to know anything about it before I have seen the sequel to Infinity War because I really, really don't want to know which characters will be back for sure.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#66304: Feb 14th 2017 at 5:54:22 AM

I'm still a little apprehensive about the ability and potential to make a Black Widow movie that isn't just a spy movie, but a superhero spy movie, but if they can pull it off, I'm all for it.

KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#66305: Feb 14th 2017 at 6:00:15 AM

Hela looks super creepy in that concept art.

Must be the eyes...

Oh God! Natural light!
windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#66307: Feb 14th 2017 at 6:31:36 AM

I'm still a little apprehensive about the ability and potential to make a Black Widow movie that isn't just a spy movie, but a superhero spy movie, but if they can pull it off, I'm all for it.

Would it need to be a superhero spy movie? Guardians wasn't much of a superhero movie either, just more of a sci-fi action film.

ultimatepheer Since: Mar, 2011
#66308: Feb 14th 2017 at 8:50:50 AM

[up][up]I like how it has LITERALLY nothing to do with the movie actually being advertised.

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#66309: Feb 14th 2017 at 8:51:36 AM

It would need to be a film that plays to Black Widow's strengths, that's why espionage is often suggested.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#66310: Feb 14th 2017 at 9:10:07 AM

[up][up] The feature is on the Doctor Strange Blue-Ray.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#66311: Feb 14th 2017 at 10:23:33 AM

The best time for a superhero spy movie would've been years ago, either just before or just after Winter Soldier. Now, Black Widow's one of the most visible and famous people on the planet, so unless they pull her as James Bond (which would be cool, but hasn't been her forte in the MCU thus far) an espionage movie with her wouldn't work as well as it would have before.

Her being a semi-fugitive after Civil War would be a good set-up for one, but given how long movies take to make if they're just talking about it now it's safe to say that plot point is going to be resolved by the time a Black Widow movie gets made.

Or in short, lots of squandered opportunities.

shatterstar Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: I wanna know about these strangers like me
#66312: Feb 14th 2017 at 10:30:48 AM

[up] Hey, we don't know about what her plot is in the Avengers movie, so don't dismiss it just yet. And they have to give someone the espionage realistic movies now that Captain America has finished its trilogy.

ComicFan Since: Sep, 2016
#66313: Feb 14th 2017 at 11:05:31 AM

JD Evermore and Carl Lundstedt join Cloak & Dagger. [1]

ComicFan Since: Sep, 2016
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#66316: Feb 14th 2017 at 11:51:42 AM

So, can I brag about how I totally called Thor Ragnarok heavily incorporating elements of Planet Hulk?

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#66317: Feb 14th 2017 at 11:53:24 AM

You're a bit late. We've known that since like, July of last year.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#66318: Feb 14th 2017 at 11:57:42 AM

Honestly, James Bond mostly seems to deal with villains who know that he is a secret agent, so I don't think that Natasha not exactly be able to go undercover in another identity is an issue if they handle it right. If she works with Sharon, she can be the distraction and Sharon the one who does the undercover stuff, while Maria provides the technical back-up. And if they want to make me really happy, they will also have Fitzsimmons there as tech support......

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#66319: Feb 14th 2017 at 12:12:23 PM

Hela looks pretty cool, glad they toned down some of the boob cup from the original design down because it would frankly look ridiculous.

And MCU Wakanda's design seems like it's taking heavily from the Coates run. I approve.

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#66320: Feb 14th 2017 at 12:13:01 PM

I'm a bit mixed on the idea of a Black Widow solo film.

On the one hand, I like her character and would love to see more of her.

On the other hand, I feel like she works best when we don't know everything she's up to; when she's sneaking around between scenes. Winter Soldier did that best, with stuff like her getting ahold of that flash drive Cap hid in the vending machine, or replacing one of the World Council members.

Being the movie's lead would make that a lot harder.

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#66321: Feb 14th 2017 at 12:31:04 PM

[up][up]Yeah. I hope the finished project looks as gorgeous as that concept art.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#66322: Feb 14th 2017 at 12:33:22 PM

I wonder if the gem in her helmet is the soul stone.

M773982 Since: Aug, 2016
#66323: Feb 14th 2017 at 1:58:57 PM

They have foreshadowed the Soul Stone being Heimdall eyeballs even more than they did Lokis staff being the mind stone. They are not going to just ignore that pointlessly.

Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
Whowho Since: May, 2012
#66325: Feb 14th 2017 at 2:01:31 PM

This is the first time I've heard this theory in fact!


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