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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#66176: Feb 2nd 2017 at 3:08:31 PM

[up][up][up][up] And even that is not necessarily a question of Finn Jones' talent, though his poor showing on Game of Thrones is reason for concern, but a genuine Broken Base where valid arguments could be made for all camps compared to the Ancient One situation, regardless of whether one personally agrees with them or notnote .

I'm not looking forward to the prospect of Inhuman Molly but otherwise it looks like a solid cast.

edited 2nd Feb '17 3:13:09 PM by AlleyOop

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#66177: Feb 2nd 2017 at 3:13:14 PM

Molly could've gotten powers from the Mind Gem.

Whowho Since: May, 2012
#66178: Feb 2nd 2017 at 3:16:52 PM

The kitchen sink is almost in place. We do already have mad scientists, witches and space aliens. It's just in other properties they've been made marketable.

Runaways is satisfying because the kids introduction to the Marvel universe is just so gash darn audacious in how broad it's scope is.

I was expecting this to be post infinity War, but hay. I think the Marvel Universe is just about ready.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#66179: Feb 2nd 2017 at 3:35:16 PM

[up][up] Be kinda odd to gain Super-Strength from the Mind Gem but it is basically Tactile Telekinesis(TM) and Quicksilver's power had even less of a connect. I can dig it.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#66180: Feb 2nd 2017 at 4:15:34 PM

What is the issue with changing it to Inhuman? Worked for Quake, too.

Unsung it's a living from a tenement of clay Since: Jun, 2016
it's a living
#66181: Feb 2nd 2017 at 4:28:35 PM

I'd rather have mutants in the MCU, but since I guess we can't, they are at least working very hard at making Inhumans mutants in all but name.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#66182: Feb 2nd 2017 at 4:34:14 PM

[up][up][up]It was a joke about them taking their other two mutant characters and giving them powers from the Mind Gem.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#66183: Feb 2nd 2017 at 4:48:23 PM

Except for like twice it never mattered that Molly was a mutant.

And those twice times were either Free Comic Day comics or came during the time when Runaways had not been good for a long time.

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alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#66185: Feb 2nd 2017 at 10:23:33 PM

Except for like twice it never mattered that Molly was a mutant.
Hell, her powers don't even work like other mutants — unlike other mutants, when she and her parents used their powers, their eyes glowed purple for some reason.

Unsung it's a living from a tenement of clay Since: Jun, 2016
it's a living
#66186: Feb 2nd 2017 at 10:32:59 PM

That doesn't seem all that unusual as far as mutations go. It's strange that all three Hayes' eyes glowed that way, but wasn't the thing about the Hayes(es) that they were mutant eugenics nuts who were deliberately trying to breed for a child with some enhanced version of their powers?

edited 3rd Feb '17 12:03:09 AM by Unsung

RBluefish Since: Nov, 2013
#66187: Feb 2nd 2017 at 11:06:57 PM

Yeah, there's literally no single common trait among mutant powers, so there's nothing weird about the glowing eyes. The fact that it runs in the family is somewhat notable, but still not unheard of. (Especially if they were indeed eugenicists of some sort, which I can't recall one way or the other offhand.)

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Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#66188: Feb 2nd 2017 at 11:39:14 PM

Isn't "he/she is a mutant" the standard explanation for powers if the writers want to skip a long (and most likely complicated) explanation where the powers originate from? Outside of the actual X-men, I doubt that it makes much of a difference if you go for "yeah, he/she hit puberty and suddenly had power" or "he/she came in contact with terragenisis one way or another and suddenly had power".

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#66189: Feb 3rd 2017 at 1:13:37 AM

Terragenesis usually has some sort of agency (or forcefulness) implied in it. Mutant powers normally arise spontaneously and somewhat stochastically with absolutely zero input, so there's way less potential for implications of the unfortunate kind.

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#66190: Feb 3rd 2017 at 1:41:45 AM

Just read a comicnote  where "and then, Terrigen gas" was a single line offscreen Hand Waving a character's powers, so it can be done casual too.

edited 3rd Feb '17 1:43:21 AM by Tuckerscreator

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#66191: Feb 3rd 2017 at 3:30:29 AM

Terrigenesis can also be a bit more useful, as it will affect a person of any age, rather than a mutation, which generally shows up at puberty.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#66192: Feb 3rd 2017 at 8:59:32 AM

What is the issue with changing it to Inhuman?

Inhumans are nerds who suck runny eggs.

More seriously, I'd just rather they not. Leave her powers' origin ambiguous if need be. Though if they did make her an Inhuman that'd be the first case of something big like that actually crossing over between the various live-action shows, since Netflix has more or less ignored Agents of SHIELD for the most part (aside from a few easter eggs).

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#66193: Feb 3rd 2017 at 9:13:27 AM

If they stick with her parents also being Whatever-her-powers-are that could imply that her parents intentionally expose her to terrigen to awaken her powers.

So that's potentially fucked up.

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Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
RavenWilder Since: Apr, 2009
#66195: Feb 3rd 2017 at 11:19:44 AM

They could always change it so that, instead of the Runaways' parents always having certain special abilities that Gibborim enhanced, they could just say that their abilities came entirely from the Gibborim.

Unsung it's a living from a tenement of clay Since: Jun, 2016
it's a living
#66196: Feb 3rd 2017 at 11:27:35 AM

The Hayes were always among the more messed-up members of the Pride. Deliberately exposing their daughter to Terrigen seems like just another means to an end for them, so I wouldn't mind them leaving that in.

If they do end up going the Inhuman route, it might be cool if the Hayes were some of Jiaying's old guard Inhumans. It'd give them more of an excuse for their mutant supremacism.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#66197: Feb 3rd 2017 at 11:30:02 AM

Honestly the time travelers would be weirder.

Dr. Strange has been the only thing to really deal with time travel, unless you count precognitive Inhuman from Agents of SHIELD.

People just going to the future and stealing stuff would be huge and new. In comics its become commonplace.

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Unsung it's a living from a tenement of clay Since: Jun, 2016
it's a living
#66198: Feb 3rd 2017 at 11:33:00 AM

On the one hand that's true for the MCU. On the other, time travel is absolutely everywhere in TV, movies, and games right now, and Runaways would have a free hand in defining it. Though I imagine they wouldn't use it very much right away, other than maybe for one-off plots involving some more mundane short-term jumps here and there, because that's de rigeur for any good teenage sci-fi adventure series.

Still no word on Old Lace :c

edited 3rd Feb '17 12:57:28 PM by Unsung

Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#66199: Feb 3rd 2017 at 12:30:02 PM

I only read the first arc, but as far as I recall, the time travel aspects of the Yorkes parents is having Old Lace and being implied to have visited an alternate universe past Japan (there is a mention of a weapon called a "samurai ax", and in our world samurai used swords, not axes). Time travel is weird as it is even without the "traveling to alternate universes" aspect.

With that in mind, I think I'd probably change them to be Asgardian followers of Loki who travel throughout the realms and scavenging throughout the nine realms for weaponry and magitek- and who picked up a pet dinosaur along the way.

I can also see some humorous discussion about the Yorkes adopting Judaism, because while Asgardians (well, some of them) consider themselves gods compared to humans, they obviously don't worship themselves, so belief in an earthly religion is not out of the question.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#66200: Feb 3rd 2017 at 12:49:10 PM

Given that Nico's mom and staff were in Doctor Strange I wonder how, if at all, that'll be addressed.


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