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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#65851: Jan 7th 2017 at 1:05:52 PM

Site says Cloak and Dagger aren't cast but should be soon. I assume same holds true for Runaways.

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#65852: Jan 9th 2017 at 9:09:51 AM

How did the comics handle it when Asgard was floating over a corn state?
It starting floating over Broxton right after Civil War (so 2007) until it was brought down during Siege (which was 2010). So the Crisis Crossovers that they had to deal with was, basically Secret Invasion (in which Skrulls could have replaced anybody) and Dark Reign (which was less a big crossover and more about Norman Osborn gaining power and led directly into Siege, in which he tried to invade Asgard). During the first, the Asgardians fought the Skrulls, but the second was mainly more concerned with US politics and so on and since Asgard was a foreign nation, it couldn't do anything.

And then, the crossover directly after Siege was Fear Itself, where Odin took Asgard back to Asgard-space and that crossover ended with a new floating Asgardia that could go anywhere. Since then, it hasn't really been on Earth at all, but floating around the moon and the rings of Saturn and so on.

edited 9th Jan '17 9:12:02 AM by alliterator

ComicFan Since: Sep, 2016
#65853: Jan 9th 2017 at 6:45:06 PM

Sterling K Brown confirms Phylicia Rashad in Black Panther. [1]

AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#65854: Jan 9th 2017 at 7:00:41 PM

Holy Shit, Clair Huxtable is gonna be in Black Panther.

Have you any dreams you'd like to sell?
Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#65855: Jan 9th 2017 at 7:10:12 PM

Lots of good casting all around but seems a shame that they put all of the black actors in a single film.

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#65856: Jan 9th 2017 at 8:45:18 PM

[up] They haven't put nearly all the black actors into a single film. There are still plenty other black actors.

edited 9th Jan '17 8:45:28 PM by alliterator

Unsung it's a living from a tenement of clay Since: Jun, 2016
it's a living
#65857: Jan 9th 2017 at 8:53:16 PM

Yeahhh, I don't think that's how that was meant. Hyperbole. As in, 'all the black actors in the entire MCU are in this one movie'.

AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#65858: Jan 9th 2017 at 8:53:36 PM

I have a sudden wish to see Denzel Washington in an MCU film.

Have you any dreams you'd like to sell?
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#65859: Jan 9th 2017 at 9:03:40 PM

Is Nick Fury going to be in Black Panther?

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#65860: Jan 9th 2017 at 9:13:02 PM

wild mass guessThe end credits scene will be Nick Fury complaining about being left out of Black Panther.wild mass guess

higherbrainpattern Since: Apr, 2012
#65861: Jan 9th 2017 at 9:15:35 PM

I could do with a few more black actors being added into Black Panther. Diversity-wise, it would be a great moment for a depiction of a (fictional) African culture, especially after Doctor Strange just ended up shitting over the concept of even pretended to showcase Asian culture when they whitewashed the Ancient One.

edited 9th Jan '17 9:16:06 PM by higherbrainpattern

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#65862: Jan 10th 2017 at 1:04:08 AM

I hope they put more not-so-famous or continental African actors into it. I get the convenience of using already-famous African American actors but African American =/= African and it would be useful having more of those voices for authenticity's sake, plus digging for hidden talent.

Bongi from Somewhere Since: Dec, 2016
#65863: Jan 10th 2017 at 1:49:57 AM

Casting John Kani as King Tchaka in Winter Soldier was a good sign. I noticed that he and Tchalla spoke isiXhosa in that movie, is that the language Wakandans will use?

Boom...
AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#65864: Jan 10th 2017 at 2:06:57 AM

Could be, but geographically it doesn't make a lot of sense as isiXhosa is a South African language while Wakanda is in East Africa (specifically Uganda) where the lingua franca tends to be Swahili, a very different language. However T'Challa's stepmother who raised him after the death of his own mother from childbirth is originally from, South Africa, so it could be rationalized as that being the language he grew up with at home and his father spoke it to him out of convenience?

edited 10th Jan '17 2:08:03 AM by AlleyOop

Bongi from Somewhere Since: Dec, 2016
#65865: Jan 10th 2017 at 2:18:56 AM

Well the Nguni tribes (of which Xhosa people are part of) originally migrated from around that region themselves so them speaking it isn't that far fetched. I didn't know that about his mother. Is that from the comics?

Boom...
AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#65866: Jan 10th 2017 at 2:28:19 AM

Yeah, T'Challa was raised by Ramonda after the death of his mother N'Yami in childbirth. She's also the mother of his half-sister Shuri.

Regarding the Xhosa thing, it's kind of like having a microstate in the middle of Spain speaking Ukrainian as their native language. Not completely impossible, but unlikely due to language drift over time unless Wakanda has a large number of South African immigrants, which is also unlikely due to Wakanda's canonical isolationism.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#65867: Jan 10th 2017 at 4:17:33 AM

It's not impossible at all....for example, the Sorbs are a Slavic minority group in Germany, who have been in the country for so long that their official nationality is German, even though they have their own culture. African people were travelling the continent just as much as everyone else, so it is not impossible that a long, long time ago a group from another part of Africa searching for a new home stumbling over a part of the nation which lay hidden and wasn't that easy to reach and decided to stay there, since nobody else had staked their claim yet. The actual unbelievable part in all this is more than they would use a modern version of the language in question, instead of a version of it which developed slightly differently.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#65869: Jan 10th 2017 at 5:55:26 PM

The little Mantis one looks really cute.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#65871: Jan 11th 2017 at 3:04:51 PM

[up] Only rumours....that list could be entirely made up.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#65872: Jan 11th 2017 at 3:07:28 PM

If we didn't discuss rumors there'd be nothing to talk about, so it's fine.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#65873: Jan 11th 2017 at 3:10:14 PM

[up] Yeah, but depending on the source, some rumors are more credible than others.

Plus, what is there to discuss? They might actually cast the highly prolific Inhumans for the show. Shocker. This won't get interesting until we actually learn who has been cast.

Plus, I have a hard time to believe that they don't already have actors in mind for the main parts. It's not like there is that much time left to shot the show.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#65874: Jan 11th 2017 at 3:14:28 PM

Plus, what is there to discuss?

Some people who aren't you may want to discuss it. If you don't wanna talk about it nobody is forcing you.

edited 11th Jan '17 3:15:40 PM by comicwriter

ComicFan Since: Sep, 2016
#65875: Jan 11th 2017 at 4:09:13 PM

Peter Dinklage could be being looked at for Infinity War [1]


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