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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#65777: Dec 30th 2016 at 3:48:13 PM

Wakanda is a city? I thought it was a country.

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#65778: Dec 30th 2016 at 3:53:28 PM

Maybe it's like New York City in New York State.

Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#65779: Dec 30th 2016 at 4:01:53 PM

In the comics the capital of Wakanda is Birnin Zana, but maybe they're changing that for the movie.

"All you Fascists bound to lose."
Discar Since: Jun, 2009
#65780: Dec 30th 2016 at 4:09:08 PM

It says a city of Wakanda. Yeah, it's probably the capital, but that's not the same as implying one city is the entire country.

Writing a post-post apocalypse LitRPG on RR. Also fanfic stuff.
AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#65781: Dec 31st 2016 at 7:59:07 PM

The architecture reminds me a LOT of Numbani, wow.

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#65782: Dec 31st 2016 at 11:58:17 PM

So, I was rewatching Civil War on Netflix for the New Year, and I was reminded of something: did we ever get word on whether or not Mariah Dillard from Luke Cage and that one nameless woman from the beginning of the movie with the same actress as her are the same character? Because it would introduce a very interesting wrinkle in Mariah's character if they are.

Unsung it's a living from a tenement of clay Since: Jun, 2016
it's a living
#65783: Jan 1st 2017 at 12:50:20 AM

The idea of an NYC councilwoman going to Boston, pretending to be someone she isn't with a kid she doesn't have just to hassle Tony Stark, a billionaire who lives in the same city she does...would be pretty funny, actually. And it would make at least as much sense as any of Diamondback's plans, I'm sure.

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#65784: Jan 1st 2017 at 12:57:31 AM

"I'M MIRIAM SHARPE!!"

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#65785: Jan 1st 2017 at 4:27:37 AM

Word of God is no and that her being cast in Luke Cage is mostly coincidental. Apparently RDJ recommended her for Civil War and they had her name on the books as someone good to have around.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#65786: Jan 1st 2017 at 6:35:05 AM

[up][up][up]Not to mention Tony failing to recognize a politician who was fairly recently embroiled in a very high profile corruption scandal.

[up]Also isn't the first case of You Look Familiar in an MCU production.

edited 1st Jan '17 6:35:56 AM by comicwriter

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#65787: Jan 1st 2017 at 1:03:29 PM

[up]Outside of Stan Lee, I believe it is.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#65788: Jan 1st 2017 at 1:05:44 PM

Just looking at the Trope page there's already several other examples.

AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#65789: Jan 1st 2017 at 1:11:06 PM

One of the cops from The Avengers was Sousa from Agent Carter.

Have you any dreams you'd like to sell?
Cross (Don’t ask)
#65790: Jan 1st 2017 at 1:12:24 PM

Even knowing there are other examples, outside of the usual Stan Lee cameos, Alfre Woodard felt like blatant case of it to me.

edited 1st Jan '17 1:12:53 PM by Cross

Unsung it's a living from a tenement of clay Since: Jun, 2016
it's a living
#65791: Jan 1st 2017 at 1:35:06 PM

I believe she was cast as a favour to RDJ— they've been friends for years. I don't think they expected to have a part as meaty as Mariah Dillard at the time. What a difference a day makes, huh?

Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#65792: Jan 1st 2017 at 1:36:56 PM

Thing is most examples are briefer or look a lot different (like Buri and the Irish mobster from Daredevil). Mariah and the woman suffer from being both pretty pivotal characters (as the woman's talk with Stark directly triggers the movie's entire conflict) and looking fairly similar.

"All you Fascists bound to lose."
Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#65793: Jan 1st 2017 at 1:42:38 PM

I think the characters are acted differently enough that I would have most likely not even noticed if someone hadn't told me. Granted, I have a really bad memory for faces. And names. But it is not that hard to compartmentalize it. I would prefer if Marvel would be more careful with stuff like this, but it is hardly a deal breaker for me.

Unsung it's a living from a tenement of clay Since: Jun, 2016
it's a living
#65794: Jan 1st 2017 at 1:47:04 PM

[up]I agree, though I'm very glad they didn't count her out for the part of Mariah just because she happened to have already played Miriam.

The two characters both look like Alfre Woodard, but Miriam's more frumpy and motherly, as she should be. The character is important, but she didn't stick with me so much that I had any trouble setting her apart from Mariah in my head.

KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#65795: Jan 1st 2017 at 7:00:03 PM

I agree - she's such a minor character that she was never really on my mind when I was watching Luke Cage.

(And really, why would it be the same person - what does a city councilwoman turned mob boss care about Tony Stark?)

edited 1st Jan '17 7:03:35 PM by KarkatTheDalek

Oh God! Natural light!
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#65796: Jan 1st 2017 at 7:20:47 PM

Because shitting on Tony Stark is the duty of every man, woman and child on Earth.

He needs to be held responsible for his crimes, his perceived crimes, his father's crimes, and everyone else's fuck ups.tongue

It's only fair.

edited 1st Jan '17 7:21:01 PM by HandsomeRob

One Strip! One Strip!
Guy01 Since: Mar, 2015
#65798: Jan 4th 2017 at 8:47:00 AM

Question: Am I the only one who wants to see Black Widow in a knock down, drag out, no holds barred fight? So far, all of her fights have been against either Hawkeye or mooks. Let's give her a boss battle to really show what she can do when she goes all out.

Something along the lines of these: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pych_H351zI

https://youtu.be/l3cJU3UQ2x0

Ok, who let Light Yagami in here?
Cross (Don’t ask)
#65799: Jan 4th 2017 at 9:03:00 AM

If her encounters with the Winter Soldier is any indication, there is a small margin between her curbstomping someone and her getting curbstomped.


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