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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
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Different characters are shown wearing different parts of the outfit/look.
What's strange is there was that early rumor that some white kid would be playing a "Ganke-like character" who would serve as Peter's confidante, which caused an uproar over supposedly whitewashing Ganke.
Now it looks like the initial report was accurate, just aimed at the entirely wrong character/actor.
DBZ Abridged
- Tony Stark: Wait a minute, something's wrong here.
- Happy: Huh?
- Tony Stark: Back on Civil War, Spiderman had trouble lifts a passenger stairway. Yet here he's able to hold a Ferry that is about to split in half together
- Happy: What do you think happened?
- Tony Stark: Well, either Steve and Bucky hit me so hard I'm in a delusional coma, or...
- Happy: Or...?
- Tony Stark: These movies are inconsistent.
edited 9th Dec '16 9:33:38 AM by dantecito
To be fair in Civil War he's holding it barehanded. Here he has his webs to serve as a middleman, which I assume takes a lot of the stress off his muscles.
"All you Fascists bound to lose."One of Spider-Man's biggest moments has always been straining his strength to his utmost.
Lifting heavy things off himself or stopping a train.
In Civil War, he's still green. He hasn't dug into his potential fully.
Forever liveblogging the AvengersCould be that he's not holding the whole ship together the way it looks like there. It's probably on the verge of breaking further, without having cracked all the way through the hull yet. I'm thinking the end of that shot is him pulling all those threads of webbing together, and then they hold the ship together. I'd love it if he goes on to spin a whole series of multiple webs within the ship at that point.
edited 9th Dec '16 9:58:39 AM by Unsung
It's generally a false assumption that what we see a character do is either their maximum potential OR easily replicated. It's all relative, we see Superman lift a car and we think that must be the upper end of his strength. Weight lifters are capable of deadlifting upwards of 1,000 pounds, but actually cleaning it (lifting to shoulder height) is in the 400 pound range. And that doesn't mean they don't strain a little bit trying to pick up a 200 pound bucket. Different motions and body positions have an impact on performance. And that's not getting into adrenaline enhanced performance.
Also in Civil War it seemed like he was supposed to be a *lot* stronger than a super soldier as well. He catches that cargo container— not without strain, but that thing probably would've flattened just about anyone else in the field. I'm not even sure one of the Iron Man suits short of the Hulkbuster could deadlift it the way Spidey's holding it.
Maybe? I'm sure they could pick it up, especially with their thrusters engaged, but I feel like we've seen them struggle with weights that seem like they would be less. Though there are probably other factors at work there. I picture more of a drag lift, I guess.
edited 9th Dec '16 11:07:49 AM by Unsung
Indeed. He quickly figures out how strong Peter is and outsmarts (and outfights him).
In terms of pure speed and strength (and with the spider sense backing him when he remembers it), Steve was outclassed.
edited 9th Dec '16 11:23:55 AM by HandsomeRob
One Strip! One Strip!Peter easily caught Bucky's punch and seemed rather casual about it. Spider-Man is supposed to have proportional insect strength and is many, many times stronger than a normal person. A Super Soldier has bouts of impressive displays of strength but they are still on the comparative low end there, the helicopter anchor is hard to judge but Steve kicked a car from the side and moved it 5 feet. But I don't think Peter is physically stronger than a Stark armor, merely faster, more nimble and better able to use physics to his advantage. A Stark Armor would have easily shrugged off the container, even tank being crushed by it.
Also, keep in mind the context. Spider-Man has almost always been as strong as he needs to be, tapping into strength he didn't know he had when he is, say, protecting someone versus, I don't know, participating in a fist-fight against people he respects and explicitly doesn't have a stake in the outcome other than impressing Stark.
It would be quite surprising if he was anywhere near the apex of his abilities at the airport.
Note that there's a HUGE difference between catching something and lifting something. I can lift a 50 pound weight with no difficulty. I'm not sure if I could catch one.
edited 9th Dec '16 12:28:11 PM by Larkmarn
Found a Youtube Channel with political stances you want to share? Hop on over to this page and add them.I'm sure they could lift it, I'm just not sure they could catch it in the same way. I feel like they'd get clobbered by it (but not crushed), be fine, then jack it of themselves no problem. It's a minor difference, but what you're saying
x3 is what I'm trying to say. A different kind of strength, not necessarily 'who would win in a super-fight'.
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Yeah, that.
That's rad.
edited 9th Dec '16 12:41:02 PM by Unsung
