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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

edvedd Darling. from At the boutique, dear. Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: We finish each other's sandwiches
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#65327: Dec 3rd 2016 at 9:34:32 PM

And then, people decide they want Daniel Bryant as Drax instead.tongue

edited 3rd Dec '16 9:35:39 PM by HandsomeRob

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edvedd Darling. from At the boutique, dear. Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: We finish each other's sandwiches
Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
Destroyer of Worlds
#65330: Dec 3rd 2016 at 11:05:23 PM

I'm going to be that dissenting voice this time and say that Drax's humor goes too far on the little kid end for me.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#65331: Dec 3rd 2016 at 11:30:35 PM

Eh, that's how I feel about a lot of the humor in GOTG, though there's enough heart in other aspects to make up for it.

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#65332: Dec 3rd 2016 at 11:45:19 PM

@this post: When Yamcha dies, he's brought back and lives a long fulfilling life as a professional baseball player. When Stannis Baratheon dies, on the other hand...

jakobitis Doctor of Doctorates from Somewhere, somewhen Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
Doctor of Doctorates
#65333: Dec 4th 2016 at 2:37:00 AM

I'm liking how Baby Groot does seem to be an actual, well, baby and not just old Groot but smaller - Rocket having to be basically his big bro/dad figure has potential. Drax was also funny but I hope he's not going to be basically that for the entire movie, he worked very well as a comically serious type so making him a goofball instead seems a (potential) misstep.

(Also probably the funniest bit of Mantis' scene to me was Gamora's reaction but maybe that's just me.)

"These 'no-nonsense' solutions of yours just don't hold water in a complex world of jet-powered apes and time travel."
Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#65334: Dec 4th 2016 at 2:39:38 AM

I love Gamora's smirk.

For some reason the part with the tape was the funniest for me. Maybe because it lampshades so well that for some reasons people in movies never search for duct tape or a pen.

windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#65335: Dec 4th 2016 at 4:29:50 AM

What is it with these sci fi stories about space exploration adding somebody with some kind of psychic power to the cast? River on Firefly. Niko from Galaxy Rangers. Andros from Power Rangers in Space. Deanna Troi from Star Trek TNG. the Jedi in the Star Wars Original Trilogy and Reboot Trilogy.

edited 4th Dec '16 4:53:48 AM by windleopard

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#65336: Dec 4th 2016 at 4:42:47 AM

The Psi Corps in Babylon 5....

I guess writers are simply fascinated with the concept.

windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#65337: Dec 4th 2016 at 4:52:19 AM

Also forgot the biotics of the Mass Effect franchise.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#65338: Dec 4th 2016 at 5:21:20 AM

They seem to be the Scifi equivalent of mages and wizards.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#65339: Dec 4th 2016 at 5:25:13 AM

So, I guess if Mantis becomes the Scarlet Witch of the Got G, we will need a Falcon and an Ant-man....and a Vision.....

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#65340: Dec 4th 2016 at 6:28:27 AM

Is anybody else creeped out by Mantis's face?

edited 4th Dec '16 6:29:25 AM by Kostya

jakobitis Doctor of Doctorates from Somewhere, somewhen Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
Doctor of Doctorates
#65341: Dec 4th 2016 at 6:43:05 AM

I don't think you can go from 'Mantis = Scarlet Witch' to saying there should be Ant-Man and Falcon equivalents. Quite apart from anything else, there is no prior analogous roles - Quill is no Captain America, Rocket has the same tech skills as Tony and nothing else in common, Groot is about as nice and kind as the Hulk is a violent monster. There's way more differences than similarities.

"These 'no-nonsense' solutions of yours just don't hold water in a complex world of jet-powered apes and time travel."
windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#65342: Dec 4th 2016 at 6:52:22 AM

[up][up]I find it pretty unsettling myself.

Pseudopartition Screaming Into The Void from The Cretaeceous Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
Screaming Into The Void
#65343: Dec 4th 2016 at 7:12:54 AM

What is it with these sci fi stories about space exploration adding somebody with some kind of psychic power to the cast? River on Firefly. Niko from Galaxy Rangers. Andros from Power Rangers in Space. Deanna Troi from Star Trek TNG. the Jedi in the Star Wars Original Trilogy and Reboot Trilogy.
Heck, you see it in non-space exploration science fiction. Like Olivia Dunham and a number of other characters from Fringe, or the Precogs in Minority Report, and apparently there's a character in Stranger Things who's psychic? (haven't seen it yet) The Machine from Person of Interest is practically psychic, as well.

You're right, this is a weird trend.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#65344: Dec 4th 2016 at 7:23:27 AM

In this specific case it's likely just that it's a power set that isn't already covered by someone else on the team. It makes her less redundant from a writing standpoint.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#65345: Dec 4th 2016 at 7:48:50 AM

Most likely....still, there are other possible powers.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#65346: Dec 4th 2016 at 8:52:26 AM

Psychicness is just a trope that happens a lot in sci fi because a lot of sci fi authors were fascinated by it

It's in Asimov's robot series, the Foundation series, Star Trek, Star Wars, Doctor Who, Ringworld

There's probably an ur example that inspired or popularized it but I dunnae which it is

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Falrinn Since: Dec, 2014
#65347: Dec 4th 2016 at 10:14:02 AM

[up][up] The abilities Mantis has in the trailer line up with what she can do in the comics.

I don't really think there is anything more to it then "Mantis can sense emotions in the comics, this ability is not detrimental to the film, therefore she can do it in the movie".

Unsung it's a living from a tenement of clay Since: Jun, 2016
it's a living
#65348: Dec 4th 2016 at 10:16:44 AM

Not quite sure what's so odd about it— it's just built into the fabric of sci-fi, like spaceships, aliens and robots. It's just that spaceships and robots get a little more plausible with each passing year, while psychic powers (and aliens, and time travel, and FTL travel) grow sadly more unlikely, the more we learn about the world. Early sci-fi writers didn't know what the future held. Now it's a part of the landscape, like elves, dwarves, and orcs— and magic— in medieval fantasy.

edited 4th Dec '16 12:24:04 PM by Unsung

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#65349: Dec 4th 2016 at 12:05:55 PM

Star Wars comes the closest to having proper Space Wizardry and the psychic abilities show up as one component of it.

WolyniaBookSeries Since: Nov, 2016
#65350: Dec 4th 2016 at 1:46:04 PM

I am going to thank James Gunn on Facebook for keeping planetary space opera fantasy alive. It's not common anymore to see Farscape, A Long Way To A Big Angry Planet, and Star Ocean type fiction on the big screen. Character based space adventure wackiness. Even the studio behind Star Trek tried capitalising upon this style for a more spirited film. So is the Dugeons and Dragon's one.

edited 4th Dec '16 1:51:58 PM by WolyniaBookSeries


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