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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#64976: Nov 14th 2016 at 6:36:37 PM

I'm blaming Feige for this.

I have no issues with Feige over this, you could tell from interviews how little he cared for the idea. The Inhumans film was all Perlmutter.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#64977: Nov 14th 2016 at 6:43:22 PM

Imo, they only need a character from each branch of the universe to sell the concept. Like, Xavier isn't essential just because he's Xavier, but because he's the voice of the mutant community - which isn't there in the MCU. But maybe the MCU version has someone from Asgard, even though iirc there isn't one in the comics, because of how close Thor wants Asgard to be to Earth as its bridge to the cosmic side.

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#64978: Nov 14th 2016 at 6:53:02 PM

Sure, I'd be amenable to that. Maybe they could include one or both Pyms. Or rather, a Pym and a Van Dyne.

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#64979: Nov 14th 2016 at 6:53:46 PM

Iron Man, Doctor Strange, and Black Panther are the only ones needed to sell the Illuminati concept.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#64980: Nov 14th 2016 at 6:56:09 PM

I'm blaming Feige for this

Blame whoever decided to introduce the Inhumans on TV before the movie. That pretty much sealed their fate as far as the movies were concerned.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#64981: Nov 14th 2016 at 7:15:32 PM

So the season is only gonna be 8 episodes, apparently? That should allow them to do more with the budget.

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#64982: Nov 14th 2016 at 8:18:05 PM

I'd love it if MCU Illuminati was Tony Stark, T'Challa, Stephen Strange, and like 7 other non-superpowered people who were already in the actual Illuminati before all these weirdo superheroes decided to join.

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#64983: Nov 14th 2016 at 8:38:45 PM

Illuminati confirmed.

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Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#64984: Nov 14th 2016 at 11:36:35 PM

I am torn about this...I was really, really looking forward to a movie...on the other hand, Inhumans is practically Marvel's Game of Thrones, so I guess it would work better in a high budget serialized form, plus, Ao S has proven that they can handle the needed special effects on TV....

What really bothers me about all this is that it looks like they seek a new show to replace Ao S. And I was kind of hoping that the show might run out the cancellation bear one last time, considering that ABC shows are currently failing left and right while Ao S at least has a stable audience which is just not particular keen on this particular time slot (the three days ratings more than double for the show).

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#64985: Nov 15th 2016 at 3:42:21 AM

Mmm....the more I hear about the Project, the more I like the idea...it seems that Marvel wants to turn the Inhumans into some sort of Sherlock-like TV event, putting it somewhere between a TV show and a movie. It certainly shows some commitment to shot the first two episodes in Imax and give it a limited movie release. And it would certainly allow some of the characters who are running around in the margins of Agents of shield to turn up again and having some room to shine.

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#64986: Nov 15th 2016 at 6:30:12 AM

What really bothers me about all this is that it looks like they seek a new show to replace A o S.
I don't think it will, considering Inhumans is only supposed to be eight episodes. I really do hope that AOS gets a fifth season and then one can lead into the other or they can run simultaneously.

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#64987: Nov 15th 2016 at 7:35:24 AM

Well, that sort of already happened. Not a direct Terrigen Bomb event, but a Mass Empowering Event where Terrigen was spread throughout the ecosystem.

Well, sort of. The overlap of "People with Inhuman gene" with "People who use fish oil" is a much smaller group of people than it is with "People who breathe air."

I mean, there's no reason they have to limit it to fish oil. They could easily say that the terrigen's infected the water and is spreading that way. It's in seafood and raining from the skies. But they seem to really have their hearts set on that fish oil.

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comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#64988: Nov 15th 2016 at 7:36:19 AM

The real distressing part is that this means fucking Bleedingcool was actually right about something!

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#64989: Nov 15th 2016 at 7:37:23 AM

If you throw enough spaghetti at a wall.

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#64990: Nov 15th 2016 at 7:37:46 AM

How widespread is the Inhuman gene? I don't think the MCU can introduce millions of people with powers at the drop of a hat like that. It doesn't seem like that kind of universe. If something like that were to happen I'd want it to stick to the movies.

edited 15th Nov '16 7:38:07 AM by Kostya

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#64991: Nov 15th 2016 at 7:42:36 AM

If you throw enough spaghetti at a wall.

...it will make your clock right?

EDIT: A big beef I have with the fish oil is that I feel like it should limit the demographic of the people who can undergo terrigenesis. Who actually uses fish oil? I see it in supermarkets on rare occasions but for people I know, it's mostly written off as some yuppie product that rich people use to, like, turn wrinkles into beauty marks or some shit.

But that might be the poverty talking.

The thing about a fantastic gene being triggered by puberty or breathing is that it's a thing that happens to everyone. Not just people who buy some fancy product that will inevitably be pulled off shelves the moment the FDA catches wind of it.

edited 15th Nov '16 7:45:15 AM by TobiasDrake

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#64992: Nov 15th 2016 at 7:45:59 AM

It wasn't just fish oil. It was fish too. The fish oil was just the immediate wave.

But the terrigenifish is affecting world wide, even places that don't really do fish oil supplements.

And the fish oil did get pulled once SHIELD caught wind.

edited 15th Nov '16 7:47:06 AM by Bocaj

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comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#64993: Nov 15th 2016 at 7:46:44 AM

Which is funny because throwing stuff against the wall and hoping some of it would stick has basically been Marvel's failed marketing strategy for the Inhumans, ha.

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#64994: Nov 15th 2016 at 7:48:15 AM

I don't really blame them.

Agents of SHIELD uses Inhumans pretty well. Possibly even a little better than the mutants would have slotted into the same role.

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comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#64995: Nov 15th 2016 at 7:50:34 AM

I am curious to see if they will continue the show's Diet X-Men take on the Inhumans now that they have the actual royal family instead.

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#64996: Nov 15th 2016 at 7:55:22 AM

I'd say yes. If for no other reason than Quake being one of the main characters.

What I'm interested in is how the Royal Family is going to come about. Were they a secret Inhuman community like Afterlife that have just stayed out of things so far? Are they going to try to step forward to provide leadership/take over the scattered Inhumans? Are they the descendants of those who long ago did rule the Inhumans and with the big boom in population and the dangers to Inhumans they decide to assert that?

There's a lot of interesting stuff they can do now that the Inhumans won't just randomly show up to bother the Fantastic Four.

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MapleSamurai Since: Aug, 2014 Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
#64997: Nov 15th 2016 at 8:10:05 AM

Well, if memory serves, Season 2 gave some indication that Jiaying and Afterlife's leadership answered to someone, so perhaps the Royal Family will tie into that.

edited 15th Nov '16 8:10:43 AM by MapleSamurai

Discar Since: Jun, 2009
#64998: Nov 15th 2016 at 8:12:54 AM

Well, Jiaying mentioned "elders," but it's not clear if they were elders of Afterlife, elders of the Inhuman royal family, or elders of Afterlife who answered to the Inhuman royal family. They conspicuously never showed up at all. So yeah, that could be a connection.

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Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#64999: Nov 15th 2016 at 8:15:43 AM

It's weird. I've always associated fish oil with fish sauce and for some reason was thinking it was a backdoor way of introducing Kamala Khan- although this makes no sense because fish sauce is used in like Thai and Vietnamese (and other East Asian) cuisines, not Pakistani cuisine. Although it probably would explain how Jiyang got her powers.

In other news, something interesting on io9 So apparently James Gunn had the idea of Ego being Peter's father long before Marvel worked out the rights with Fox.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#65000: Nov 15th 2016 at 8:27:06 AM

It's amusing that they basically went "What? Shit!" upon finding out they didn't have Ego's film rights.


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