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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Whowho Since: May, 2012
#64851: Nov 8th 2016 at 8:03:15 AM

Doctor Strange had implications about Thanos' motivations in Avengers.

there was at the time three infinity stones on Earth, the Tesseract, Aether and the Eye of Agomotto. It makes more sense that he would be willing to risk the mind stone to win three infinity stones, especially with the apolcolyptic personality he hid in the mind stone as a contingency plan

edited 8th Nov '16 11:15:01 AM by Whowho

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#64852: Nov 8th 2016 at 8:05:22 AM

[up][up]Nope. I assume he'll be in it but so far the only actual announced cast members are Chadwick Boseman, Michael B. Jordan, Lupita Nyong'o, Danai Gurira, Forest Whitaker, Daniel Kaluuya, and Letita Wright.

They haven't actually confirmed Andy Serkis or Martin Freeman will be in it.

hollygoolightly Since: Apr, 2012 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#64853: Nov 8th 2016 at 8:07:14 AM

[up][up][up] They really only confirmed black characters/actors for the movie so far. But you can make good cases for Klaw, Ross and/or Bucky showing up, and since nobody knows what that would look like, people got angry pre-emptively.

Kevin Feige said for both Everett Ross and Zemo that they'd feature more in other movies, but he didn't specify where. Zemo generally has more options from his comics background, but of course he also has a Wakandan connection now due to being responsible for T'Chaka's death. So who knows. If I were betting I wouldn't expect him to be back before Infinity War, though.

[up][up] Your spoiler formatting is borked, friend.

edited 8th Nov '16 8:09:03 AM by hollygoolightly

TobiasDrake (•̀⤙•́) (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
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#64854: Nov 8th 2016 at 8:13:24 AM

The Aether wasn't on Earth. Jane fell through a portal into the realm where it was kept during the Convergence because plot convenience. It was entirely random happenstance that she acquired it. Thor The Dark World was not a very good film.

edited 8th Nov '16 8:14:16 AM by TobiasDrake

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alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#64855: Nov 8th 2016 at 8:24:47 AM

Current locations of all Infinity Stones:

  • Space Stone: The Tesseract was taken to Asgard at the end of The Avengers.
  • Reality Stone: The Aether was taken to the Collector on Knowhere at the end of Thor: The Dark World. It's probably still there, despite the destruction that happened there.
  • Power Stone: The Orb was taken to Xandar at the end of Guardians of the Galaxy.
  • Mind Stone: The Gem in the middle of Loki's Scepter is now in the center of the Vision's head on Earth as of Avengers: Age of Ultron and Civil War.
  • Time Stone: The Eye of Agammotto is also on Earth in Kamar Taj, Kathmandu, as of Doctor Strange.
  • Soul Stone: No idea.

edited 8th Nov '16 8:25:15 AM by alliterator

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#64856: Nov 8th 2016 at 9:17:37 AM

I wouldn't be surprised if Got G has an end-credit scene showing that Thanos has just stolen the power stone from Xandar.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#64857: Nov 8th 2016 at 9:32:24 AM

Wouldn't be surprised if the Soul Stone has something to do with Ragnarok since Hela is the Big Bad.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#64859: Nov 8th 2016 at 9:46:03 AM

I expect the Soul stone to turn up off-earth, and since Gunn sais that there won't be one in Got G Vol 2, Ragnaroc is the most likely option for this.

Unsung it's a living from a tenement of clay Since: Jun, 2016
it's a living
#64860: Nov 8th 2016 at 9:55:42 AM

"Take control of your city, New York!"

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#64861: Nov 8th 2016 at 10:00:17 AM

[up][up][up] Doesn't look too bad compared to the other image, but I still can't stand those damn feet.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#64862: Nov 8th 2016 at 10:15:34 AM

They look very odd, but like with Falcon I guess they wanted to give him some offensive capability instead of just having him fly around.

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#64863: Nov 8th 2016 at 11:48:22 AM

That's a pretty badass design, actually. Love the coat.

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Whowho Since: May, 2012
#64864: Nov 8th 2016 at 12:41:40 PM

I tell you, I might have been pretty Luke warm in terms of Doctor Strange hype, but damn am I looking forward to Doctor Strange 2 Mordo gets to take center stage and Ejiofor is going to blow our minds. No AO for the writers to dance around, possibly more focus on Wong, and hay, maybe they'll add in Clea for more female presence.

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#64865: Nov 8th 2016 at 12:45:44 PM

Given her performance in Doctor Strange, I can't help but think that Tilda Swinton would have made an amazing Clea.

And then we could have had the Ancient One not be a white person.

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Unsung it's a living from a tenement of clay Since: Jun, 2016
it's a living
#64866: Nov 8th 2016 at 1:08:36 PM

I am looking forward to more of Eijofor as Mordo. He was probably the most compelling actor onscreen in Doctor Strange. I love Tilda Swinton, but I feel like we needed more time (ha), even if that was mostly in the form of time skips and montages, to really feel the impact of her death. She gets a great death scene and she plays the hell out of it, but I feel like the script could have done more to lead up to that. Because obviously the wise old mentor is gonna die.

Maybe Clea will be based on the Ancient One? She was marked by Dormammu, and that certainly seems like it would be within his powers.

edited 8th Nov '16 1:18:03 PM by Unsung

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#64868: Nov 8th 2016 at 1:59:01 PM

Because aside from The Incredible Hulk (I think), they've never done an all-white movie.

Incredible Hulk had the scenes in Brazil and a few non-white soldiers with lines, but I agree it's a pretty low bar.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#64869: Nov 8th 2016 at 2:01:49 PM

Too bad that the Soul Stone can't be a Horocrux...wrong franchise....

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#64870: Nov 8th 2016 at 2:46:10 PM

I'm sincerely curious what they're going to do with Magus or whether they're just going to fold him into Ayesha, which would also be pretty interesting.

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#64871: Nov 8th 2016 at 2:57:46 PM

If they aren't putting the Soul Stone in GOTG 2 it's probably going to be introduced in Thanos's possession. It makes him look like less of an idiot if he had two Infinity Stones and risked giving one to Loki on the chance he could bring back two more.

edited 8th Nov '16 2:58:02 PM by Kostya

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#64872: Nov 8th 2016 at 3:05:42 PM

I think that either Heimdal or Hela has the Soul stone...not just because they both have names starting with "h" but because it makes kind of sense. In Heimdal's case it would explain why he is able to see all the souls in the nine realms...but I actually like the idea that Hela has it even better, because that would kind of explain how she is able to control souls without making her actually the literal death.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#64873: Nov 8th 2016 at 3:16:25 PM

I've seen some really compelling arguments for Heimdall having the Stone, but the biggest strike against it was them saying in The Dark World that it's unwise to keep two Infinity Stones so close together. It'd seem weird to get rid of the Aether but be perfectly fine having the Tesseract and the Soul Stone so close together.

That's why I think Hela has it.

edited 8th Nov '16 3:16:44 PM by comicwriter

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#64874: Nov 8th 2016 at 8:18:22 PM

I think the Soul Stone won't show up until Infinity War, where it'll play a more important role than the other five gems since it hasn't had a turn yet.

That or Hela has it.

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comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#64875: Nov 9th 2016 at 12:28:31 PM

Today in massive fucking reaches (very slight Doctor Strange spoilers).

Seriously, as far as I know they are still working out the origin anyway.


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