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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
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Probably not. Thor gets a new haircut at some point in the movie but still has his long hair in the set photos from New York.
Plus I would think if your entire selling point is "This is gonna be nothing like Thor: The Dark World" you'd probably want to avoid a climax that is exactly like Thor: The Dark World's.
edited 5th Nov '16 2:03:12 PM by comicwriter
Assembling the Thunderbolts is pretty much the only rationale I can see for where Zemo's character in Civil War landed. The movie all but states it's going there with, "The world is not done with you yet."
I assume Feige's tinkering with a composite adaptation combining the "Zemo's secret villains posing as heroes" dynamic with the original Civil War's "government-sponsored villains on a leash" version.
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Yep. I have a feeling that while the first part of Infinity War is going to be about Thanos, the second part is going to be about the Avengers actually fighting a team of supervillains, the Thunderbolts. Which is why they changed the name away from Infinity War, Part Two because it doesn't really have anything to do with, uh, the Infinity Stones.
I'm not sure how I feel about that. They've been building up to this for so long that I don't think they can have a satisfying movie that isn't in two parts. I think it would make the most sense to have part 1 focus on keeping the stones away from Thanos. In the end they fail and part 2 is about actually stopping him.
If Thanos is only involved with one of the two parts, I'm sure it will be part 2. It's classic escalation. You don't do universe-threatening horror in Part 1 and then some asshole with a grudge for Part 2.
EDIT: Further, I don't think directly fighting the Avengers is a good use of the Thunderbolts. Zemo himself acknowledged the futility of it in Civil War, with his bit about empires being torn down from within, not without. It would be a massive bit of Villain Decay for him to come back and just be like, "I changed my mind. I've arranged a group of evil villains and WE SHALL DESTROY THE AVENGERS!!!"
Thunderbolts would work better as their own movie, with protagonists and antagonists within the team itself.
edited 6th Nov '16 7:51:09 AM by TobiasDrake
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.Infinity War, Part 1: Thanos arrives on Earth, looking to complete the set. The Avengers- all the Avengers, after their teary reunion- and Earth's militaries throw everything they can at his armies. After taking out the army's keystone, Thanos is left alone... where he proceeds to slaughter the Avengers through a mix of personal strength and the few Infinity Gems he hasn't lost/given away. Part 1 ends with Thanos seizing the final gems and killing half of everything in the universe for his mistress, Death.
Infinity War, Part 2: It turns out, it's still not enough to win Death's favor. Thanos is left bewildered and alone in the ruins of shattered Earth, while Doctor Strange revives the head of Tony Stark for romantic advice. While Strange and Tony try to get Thanos to see the folly of his quest- or find a new girl- the Thunderbolts, led by Zemo, seek to distract Thanos and seize the Infinity Gauntlet, which Zemo will use to restore his family and country (and probably torture the Avengers a bit).
Meanwhile, Death is holed up in a semi-intact bar, complaining about the big creepy purple guy who's been stalking her this whole time to any nearby superheroes. Hilarty Ensues when Moonstone points out that she could just ask for the Infinity Gauntlet as a gift, then eviscerate Thanos. The film ends with a free-for-all as everyone who grabs the Gauntlet creates their own heavens and hells.
edited 6th Nov '16 8:05:45 AM by JBC31187
I think Thanos will be the antagonist of both movies - if these were two completely separate stories, they likely wouldn't film them together. Either Russos or Feige mentioned that the name change happened so people wouldn't think it's one big movie cut in two. I imagine that means it's more like Fellowship of the Ring and The Two Towers, and not like Deathly Hallows I and II.
This comment relates to Doctor Strange, technically, but doesn't have to do with the movie itself, so ZERO spoilers..
Anyway, I watched it last night, and it looked like they had really updated and jazzed up the Marvel Comics logo they put at the beginning. Did they do that in a previous movie and I just didn't notice?
Infinity War Part II pretty much has to have Thanos in it since we've already had confirmation there will be people who don't show up in Part I but are in Part II.
Many suspect Part I has a plot building up to the fight and then Part II is the final battle.
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more likely is that Thanos is AN antagonist in Part I but not the only one. There will likely be villains working under him.
id be willing to wager Hela is a Composite Character with Death. Beyond the redundancy of introducing two similar characters so close, they keep talking about Thor: Ragnarok being important to the plot of Infinity War.
edited 6th Nov '16 8:32:30 AM by comicwriter
@Raven Wilder- I wondered that too. I had rembered it being panels from comics, but in the Strange opening, the logo involved clips from various MCU movies as well.
RE the Thunderbolts, I'd like to see them and I'm assuming some kind of composite between "villains pretending to be heroes" and "government black ops team".
In terms of membership, Zemo is a given, in light of his conspicuous survival.
Because he's alive and due to his characterization, I think Justin Hammer is a good/liikely pick too. I imagine him either being MACH-I or else using the Crimson Dynamo identity- but in either case, his identity would be unknown to the public and he'd bask in good publicity but ultimately have a Heel–Face Turn (or maybe he'd even think he was on a team of heroes and would be surprised that they were bad guys).
That's pretty much it in terms of already existing characters. I did vaguely think that Loki could be a member, perhaps shapeshifted and calling himself Thunderstrike, but that's probably ruled out by whatever will happen in Thor: Ragnorak. I suppose Batrok is also a possibility- maybe if he was given some powers that granted him Taskmaster's abilities?
I then asked if it’s misleading having them labeled as “Part 1” and “Part 2”
“It is misleading,” said Anthony.
So I think it's pretty clear that while Infinity War will be about Thanos and the Infinity Stones, the Avengers film that comes after that (currently titled Untitled Avengers Film) won't be.
edited 6th Nov '16 8:44:53 AM by alliterator
I still want this
◊ to be one of the last shots in Infinity War.
I feel that they can introduce a few characters in a hypothetical Thunderbolts movie as having fought the Avengers before.
They did stuff between movies probably.
Forever liveblogging the AvengersIt's common sense. First movie has a smaller cast and a less centralized threat. The second movie is everyone vs. Thanos. Like others have already said, it'd be one of the worst cases of Anti-Climax Boss in history to have Thanos defeated in Infinity War and then have the big touted finale be the Avengers fighting someone completely unrelated.
Again, however, the Russo Brothers have already stated that the two films will not be one film broken into two. What you are describing sounds exactly like that.
As well, only the first film will be called Infinity War (which means it involves the Infinity Stones). The second film currently has no name.
Not really. If you couldn't have separate installments without a running plot or overarching villains, then Lord of the Rings and Harry Potter wouldn't be series. You can rather easily have two separate movies that continue the same story.
...I know. That's kinda why I said this: "Like others have already said, it'd be one of the worst cases of Anti-Climax Boss in history to have Thanos defeated in Infinity War and then have the big touted finale be the Avengers fighting someone completely unrelated."
edited 6th Nov '16 11:05:42 AM by comicwriter

So when will we be able to post about Doctor Strange in this thread without spoilers? I'm going to see it tomorrow.
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