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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#64651: Nov 2nd 2016 at 1:16:17 AM

Dormammu better make his grand entrance by saying "Power of the- Power of the- Power of the- Return to dust!"

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#64652: Nov 2nd 2016 at 1:59:12 AM

RUN! RUN!

Another thing: I can't watch the scene where Loki throws Tony out the window without MVC 3's Iron Man theme playing in my head during the suit-up.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#64653: Nov 2nd 2016 at 8:28:57 AM

Another Captain Obvious Reveal, but Claire, Trish and Stick have been announced back for the Defenders as well.

DeathsApprentice The Ultimate Lifeform from The Ark Since: Aug, 2011 Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
The Ultimate Lifeform
#64654: Nov 2nd 2016 at 8:46:58 AM

Sweet! Yay for Trish and Claire!

When we're done, there won't be anything left.
hollygoolightly Since: Apr, 2012 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#64655: Nov 2nd 2016 at 9:06:58 AM

Didn't Stick already "appear" in the first teaser, as a voice-over?

Yay for Trish and Claire, though.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#64656: Nov 2nd 2016 at 9:29:32 AM

Feige talks about Infinity War. Sounds like there'll be some unexpected team-ups. He also said that looking to the comics as a clue of what's gonna happen can be misleading.

hollygoolightly Since: Apr, 2012 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#64657: Nov 2nd 2016 at 10:26:24 AM

Hmm. Rocket and Vision? T'Challa and Scott? Nebula and Wanda vs Loki? Hulk and Drax? Falcon and Groot? Valkyrie and Gamorra?

kkhohoho (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#64658: Nov 2nd 2016 at 10:27:05 AM

So when it comes to the Defenders line-up, in terms of character who are either already Superheroes in the MCU or become so in the comics, we've got...

  • Daredevil
  • Jessica Jones
  • Luke Cage
  • Iron Fist
  • Trish Walker (Hellcat,)
  • Misty Knight
  • Colleen Wing
  • Claire (Night Nurse)

That makes for a pretty darn good roster altogether, and while I'm sure that the main 4 will get top billing, it's still nice to know that the rest of the cast isn't left out in the cold. Just makes me all the more excited for it.smile

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#64659: Nov 2nd 2016 at 11:48:48 AM

Doesn't Stick kinda count as a superhero too?

Not exactly the most heroic of heroes, but he's still pretty super.

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
jakobitis Doctor of Doctorates from Somewhere, somewhen Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
Doctor of Doctorates
#64660: Nov 2nd 2016 at 12:10:38 PM

Yeah, if Matt's a 'super' then so is Stick. Not necessarily a super hero but super nonetheless. In fact when you look at that it's impressive that the three shows so far have all thrown up supporting characters strong and popular enough to feature in a shared universe in their own right instead of being relegated to showing up in each 'main' character's show. (With Claire seemingly being the small-screen Nick Fury funnily enough.)

I am stoked for Iron Fist already, much more than Punisher if I am honest, though I don't think the Netflix/Marvel combination has thrown out an outright dud yet. Luke Cage fizzled out a little but it's still at the very least entertaining enough and the first half is outstanding.

"These 'no-nonsense' solutions of yours just don't hold water in a complex world of jet-powered apes and time travel."
shatterstar Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: I wanna know about these strangers like me
#64661: Nov 2nd 2016 at 12:30:40 PM

I'm kind of curious of what will become of Claire's character. Her character in the comic basically disappeared after breaking up with Cage but she seems to have more prominent in the MCU.

Pseudopartition Screaming Into The Void from The Cretaeceous Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
Screaming Into The Void
#64662: Nov 2nd 2016 at 12:49:32 PM

TBH I'm really worried they're going to kill her off for drama.

Please don't Marvel, she's my favourite.

Unsung it's a living from a tenement of clay Since: Jun, 2016
it's a living
#64663: Nov 2nd 2016 at 12:51:50 PM

Well, if anyone has another job lined up outside this franchise, it's Rosario Dawson, but yeah, I really hope they don't kill her off to manufacture some drama.

edited 2nd Nov '16 12:52:10 PM by Unsung

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I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#64664: Nov 2nd 2016 at 1:00:58 PM

I wonder if there'll be any new characters in Defenders, aside from the villain.

Spinosegnosaurus77 Ramen Fairy from Ontario, Canada Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: All I Want for Christmas is a Girlfriend
Ramen Fairy
#64665: Nov 2nd 2016 at 1:14:14 PM

Doctor Strange currently has a score of 70 on Metacritic & 91% on RT, putting it in the same league as The Winter Soldier.

edited 2nd Nov '16 1:14:24 PM by Spinosegnosaurus77

Peace is the only battle worth waging.
Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#64666: Nov 2nd 2016 at 1:50:12 PM

I doubt they're gonna kill off Claire just for a Coulson analogy. She's too important and they've been setting her up for increasing prominence.

edited 2nd Nov '16 1:50:59 PM by Anomalocaris20

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
Unsung it's a living from a tenement of clay Since: Jun, 2016
it's a living
#64667: Nov 2nd 2016 at 1:53:21 PM

I'd call it pulling a Ben Urich in this case, but yeah. Based on the tone of these shows, they'd have to work some overtime to justify nobody out of the main cast dying. Which I'm fine with, so long as they do the work.

edited 2nd Nov '16 2:22:57 PM by Unsung

hollygoolightly Since: Apr, 2012 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#64668: Nov 2nd 2016 at 2:16:45 PM

Claire actually did show up in Captain America: Sam Wilson fairly recently. She also is the major Breakout Character of the Netflix shows by a wide margin, I don't think they'll kill her off as long as Rosario Dawson is willing to do the role.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#64669: Nov 2nd 2016 at 2:56:00 PM

Claire can probably upgrade herself to a Combat Medic but so long as the individual Defenders are around she'll probably be there as a universal Lancer to provide backup for them.

AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#64670: Nov 2nd 2016 at 2:59:48 PM

Well she's supposed to be getting into more action sequences in Iron Fist, from my understanding.

Have you any dreams you'd like to sell?
comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#64671: Nov 2nd 2016 at 3:06:47 PM

Feige talked a little bit about Sequel Escalation and avoiding it after Infinity War.

“To us, it's less about continuing to go bigger with spectacle — although in some cases, we will — and more about continuing to go deeper with those character interactions,” Feige said. “I think it's possible to have more intimate movies after that, or to have more interesting, unexpected combinations of characters after that, absolutely.”

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#64672: Nov 2nd 2016 at 3:20:36 PM

Making room for smaller fare sounds like a good way to stave off superhero movie fatigue too, given stopping explosive world-ending climaxes are the things people complain about the most with these films.

Galadriel Since: Feb, 2015
#64673: Nov 2nd 2016 at 4:29:59 PM

I'll believe Marvel's going in that direction when I see them do so, and not before. I remember Joss wanted Age of Ultron to be "smaller-scale and more character-focused" compared to Avengers, and it turned out the opposite.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#64674: Nov 2nd 2016 at 4:33:13 PM

Claire's in the really precarious position of being a character nearly everybody in Defenders knows and has some kind of relationship, and thus would be instant drama for everyone if she were to die.

She's the new Coulson.

RavenWilder Since: Apr, 2009
#64675: Nov 2nd 2016 at 4:37:36 PM

So, if Matt needed a chemical spill to enhance his other senses, why can Stick do the same thing purely through training? Or, to put it a different way, if Stick's training alone is enough to enhance a blind person's other senses to superhero levels, then why does Matt's origin story need a chemical mutation in the first place?


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