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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#63851: Oct 19th 2016 at 3:43:47 PM

[up] It's possible that Ayesha was in the cocoon.

nervmeister Since: Oct, 2010
#63852: Oct 19th 2016 at 3:48:02 PM

[up]Well, at least there's still my theory that wild mass guess Ayesha is in fact MCU's Adam Warlock and can turn from female to male via cocoon regen

Unsung it's a living from a tenement of clay Since: Jun, 2016
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#63853: Oct 19th 2016 at 3:53:57 PM

I don't know a lot about Adam Warlock, admittedly, but this version of Peter Quill's already pretty different from the comics' version, both in personality, history, and in apparently being Ego the Living Planet's son? If anyone seems likely to have a crucifixion/rebirth arc, romance Gamora, and be an ongoing thorn in Thanos's side... Too out there? I don't even really know.

nervmeister Since: Oct, 2010
#63854: Oct 19th 2016 at 3:57:38 PM

[up]You know, you're starting to make me hate GOTG.

Mullon Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: And here's to you, Mrs. Robinson
#63855: Oct 19th 2016 at 3:57:41 PM

I'm embarrassed how excited I got by the ooga-chacka's again.

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Unsung it's a living from a tenement of clay Since: Jun, 2016
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#63856: Oct 19th 2016 at 4:08:59 PM

[up][up]Well, if it makes you feel any better it does look like they broke up in the trailer, so that's at least one way I could be way, way off.

Whowho Since: May, 2012
#63857: Oct 19th 2016 at 4:33:24 PM

Wait, we're having a female villain? Do we know the actress?

Got G might actually beat Suicide Squad's record in terms of super powered female characters.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#63859: Oct 19th 2016 at 4:37:04 PM

Elizabeth Debicki. Been known for a while from the rumor treadmill though I think it was only made official at one of the recent Comic-Cons.

If they're combining Ayesha with Adam Warlock it's possible the character is a hermaphroditic entity like Desire from The Sandman, or can shift between the forms like comics Loki. In the case that it's a Composite Character situation, I figure Ayesha is a more fantastical sounding name than Adam Warlock.

nervmeister Since: Oct, 2010
#63860: Oct 19th 2016 at 4:51:54 PM

I wouldn't be surprised if Starlord - being the Ascended Fanboy he is - is the one who comes up with the name for him. Maybe there's an in-universe fantasy series Quill loved as a kid featuring some hero with the title/occupation of "warlock" and his new ally shares similarities (especially power-wise) with that character.

edited 19th Oct '16 4:55:24 PM by nervmeister

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#63861: Oct 19th 2016 at 8:12:19 PM

You know, at times I want to ship Quill x Gamora as hard as I can purely out of spite.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#63862: Oct 19th 2016 at 8:24:47 PM

It's not like the ship has much in the way of competition. Its biggest enemy is probably itself and whether people bought them as having chemistry or not.

edited 19th Oct '16 8:25:28 PM by AlleyOop

Whowho Since: May, 2012
#63863: Oct 19th 2016 at 9:03:15 PM

The only romantic subplot I'm interested in seeing in these films is Phallya-Vell and Moondragon.

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#63864: Oct 19th 2016 at 9:10:14 PM

In fairness.

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Unsung it's a living from a tenement of clay Since: Jun, 2016
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#63865: Oct 19th 2016 at 9:14:08 PM

Yep. Pretty rad, alright.

(Phyla-Vell, for the sake of those who want to Google them now. Phyla-Vell is one of the other Captain Marvels.)

edited 19th Oct '16 9:16:06 PM by Unsung

nervmeister Since: Oct, 2010
#63867: Oct 19th 2016 at 9:56:35 PM

It just occured to me. In order to differentiate him from Vision, what if they turned Adam Warlock into a bigoted asshat whose usual noble attributes and Friend to All Living Things disposition became his Hidden Depths? It'd be similar to what they did with Yondu.

edited 20th Oct '16 5:38:51 AM by nervmeister

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#63868: Oct 19th 2016 at 11:25:56 PM

So the first reviews of Dr. Strange are out, and most of them are positive. As expected the best praise goes towards the visuals and Cumberbatch's acting (which I don't think was ever really in question). Most common complaints seem to be it's formulaic and some of the humor is forced. So more of the same, and most likely going to end up in the middle of MCU rankings.

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alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#63870: Oct 19th 2016 at 11:28:37 PM

So it's kind of like Ant-Man but with much better visuals? I'm okay with that. That's about what I thought it was going to be.

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#63871: Oct 19th 2016 at 11:31:54 PM

A clip from early on in the movie:

And another clip featuring the Ancient One:

edited 19th Oct '16 11:32:53 PM by alliterator

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#63872: Oct 19th 2016 at 11:47:51 PM

Probably the main difference between it and Ant-Man is Doctor Strange seems to prioritize action scenes while the latter prioritized the humor and silliness. For me and a lot of people the humor, plus the performances of Paul Rudd and Michael Pena, are what made Ant-Man really work. Whereas Doctor Strange seems to be leaning back on different things, none of which have really appealed to me so far.

edited 19th Oct '16 11:48:53 PM by AlleyOop

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#63873: Oct 20th 2016 at 12:42:52 AM

Well, if the story is decent I am happy...I don't have high expectations on the script. Which would usually be a deal breaker, but those visuals and the actors are a strong argument.

Though there are no reviews collected at Rotten Tomatoes yet, so far we only have first impressions. Can't wait for more analytical takes on the movie.

edited 20th Oct '16 12:45:04 AM by Swanpride

golgothasArisen Since: Jan, 2015
#63874: Oct 20th 2016 at 5:28:30 AM

I'm personally excited about Doctor Strange. Surprisingly, Marvel is always able to make these origin movies worthwhile by how different they are from each other.

and holy hell i am so fuckin' psyched for guardians of the galaxy vol. 2, especially after the first one ended up as my favorite movie of all time

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#63875: Oct 20th 2016 at 7:27:16 AM

It's not like the ship has much in the way of competition. Its biggest enemy is probably itself and whether people bought them as having chemistry or not.

It's also opposed by shipping fatigue and by general agitation over having the one female protagonist happen to be the white guy's love interest - and the debate over whether or not that undermines her role as the most dangerous woman in the galaxy due to the movie spending more screentime on "totes f*ckable" than on Gamora being awesome.

There's a lot of reasons people oppose Quill/Gamora that, unlike how it usually plays out, have nothing to do with a rival ship. Even people who believe they did have chemistry can still hate the ship.

edited 20th Oct '16 7:27:59 AM by TobiasDrake

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