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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

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#63801: Oct 18th 2016 at 10:37:08 AM

I've been thinking it would be a neat idea for every MCU movie to have a trailer for the next one.

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higherbrainpattern Since: Apr, 2012
#63802: Oct 18th 2016 at 10:38:32 AM

[MCU hater voice] But every MCU movie *is* a trailer for the next one!!!!!1

edited 18th Oct '16 10:39:49 AM by higherbrainpattern

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#63803: Oct 18th 2016 at 11:14:49 AM

If they do actually try to go with a new team of Avengers for real this time instead of another pseudo fakeout like at the end of AOU, it sort depends. None of the new Phase 2 and 3 heroes are exact Suspiciously Similar Substitute equivalents for the original 6.

I.E., Spider-Man and Ant-Man are closest to Iron Man in personality, but I'd imagine Black Panther would be the one bankrolling and providing tech for any new Avengets team if Tony is out of the picture.

Peter and Scott have Tony's sass and nerdiness, but neither have his bottomless pockets.

edited 18th Oct '16 11:18:23 AM by comicwriter

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#63804: Oct 18th 2016 at 11:24:27 AM

[up]Maybe but Peter have his god-curse bad luck with....pretty much everything so he fit better as the new tonyevil grin

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Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#63805: Oct 18th 2016 at 11:31:26 AM

I don't think that Peter will be an Avenger...he will be something who helps out when the Avengers are really desperate, but in general, he is a freaking teenager. Tony taking him to the brawl with cap was already irresponsible.

higherbrainpattern Since: Apr, 2012
#63806: Oct 18th 2016 at 11:36:47 AM

I don't think it's Black Panther's job to financially provide for the other Avengers.

hollygoolightly Since: Apr, 2012 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#63807: Oct 18th 2016 at 11:39:31 AM

[up][up] It would also be a way to deal with the rights question. Tom Holland said he isn't sure if he's going to be in the Infinity War + Untitled Follow Up movies, and the reason seem to be the usual Sony/Marvel negotiations

I'm not sure I see T'Challa being a full-time Avenger either, nor do I see him financing the group. The guy is running a country, that is always going to be first on his list.

Partially [nja]'d.

edited 18th Oct '16 11:40:19 AM by hollygoolightly

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#63808: Oct 18th 2016 at 12:07:25 PM

Hasn't stopped him from being an Avenger in the past.

If for whatever reason Stark were no longer in the picture he'd be the easiest bet for making sure the Avengers aren't living out of a shack.

Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#63809: Oct 18th 2016 at 12:13:34 PM

In the comics, Panther often gets his "Council of Elders" (basically a Parliament) to run the country for him while he's superheroing. Sometimes this is by design, like he's trying to make the country more democratic or he believes he needs to prove he's (Fill in whichever Kingly ideal possible) before he can run the country again.

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FoxBoxKid Philosophy Enthusiast from California Republic Since: Oct, 2013
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#63810: Oct 18th 2016 at 12:18:23 PM

Preview of the Doctor Strange soundtrack:

Make mine Marvel.
Unsung it's a living from a tenement of clay Since: Jun, 2016
it's a living
#63812: Oct 18th 2016 at 1:38:29 PM

They're not shying away from their psychedelic influences. I can sure as hell appreciate that.

MedusaStone Since: Jan, 2015
#63813: Oct 18th 2016 at 3:43:09 PM

Since we're talking alternate scenarios how 'bout this: at the airport, instead of whatever happened to start a fight (haven't seen the movie), Team Cap had just explained where they were going and why, and Tony (who we all know threw the Accords he put his friends in prison over right out the window the first time they got in his way) said "Fine. We're coming with you." Besides the obvious lack of fight scene, how would that have changed the rest of the film? And the aftermath of it?

edited 18th Oct '16 3:43:39 PM by MedusaStone

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#63814: Oct 18th 2016 at 3:52:44 PM

Cap did try to explain himself. But by that point, Tony was hearing none of it.

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unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#63815: Oct 18th 2016 at 4:25:51 PM

[up][up]it will pretty much botch the entire third act where Cap and Tony fight, the airport fight was pretty much the best thing Zemo could hope for since it make things easier for him.

I mean, have anyone else beside Cap,Tony,Bukcy have come, Zemo would be fuck.

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comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#63816: Oct 18th 2016 at 4:40:47 PM

[up][up]Yup. It was basically cry wolf at that point. Steve had already broken the law several times and disobeyed direct orders, and was now fleeing with a wanted fugitive who just assaulted (and possibly killed) a bunch of government employees. And then of course Ross made it clear that if Tony didn't bring in Team Cap by himself within the set time limit, he'd send a bunch of his soldiers instead (which would just make things even worse). By the time he tried to explain to Tony that Zemo was the real mastermind behind all this, Tony wasn't in the mood to listen to him.

Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#63817: Oct 18th 2016 at 4:51:46 PM

On that note, it's probably too late in the scheme of things, but I'd like Steve to be "redeemed", especially in the eyes of Tony through having the government put forth one or more "Evil"!Cap" types (probably a composite of U.S. Agent and William Burnside). And like at the same time you could have Citizen V and a team of Thunderbolts, with V being Zemo of course. Alternatively, you could have Citizen V and the Thunderbolts and have V being one of the "Evil!Cap" guys.

edited 18th Oct '16 4:52:33 PM by Hodor2

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#63818: Oct 18th 2016 at 6:14:55 PM

They'll probably have to do something big to reendear the heroes to the public in the next movie. Though I guess stopping an Evil Overlord from destroying the universe probably counts.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#63819: Oct 18th 2016 at 10:02:04 PM

Just for the record, Agents of Shield is killing it! This last episode...wow! Just wow!

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#63820: Oct 18th 2016 at 11:22:33 PM

Some context: last season, we met an Inhuman named James whose powers was he could make objects explode. Sort of a bargain basement Gambit, except for this one time when he made a chain whip of fire. (In the comics, James is "Hellfire," who is the grandson of the Phantom Rider, the old west Ghost Rider.)

This season, we've been introduced to Robbie Reyes, the Ghost Rider. Not an Inhuman, he says he got his powers from making a "deal with the Devil." In this episode, James is revealed as working for anti-Inhuman terrorists the Watchdogs. And so they fight.

And lo, it was awesome.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#63821: Oct 19th 2016 at 8:12:34 AM

Robbie has been a great addition to the MCU.

Guardians Vol. 2 poster.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#63822: Oct 19th 2016 at 8:30:42 AM

Okay....which poster are they referencing there? I am sure it has to be one, but since I don't really care for music groups, only which songs I like....

Also: lol, I nearly overlooked Groot.

edited 19th Oct '16 8:31:24 AM by Swanpride

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#63824: Oct 19th 2016 at 9:13:48 AM

0/10. No Mantis.

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alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#63825: Oct 19th 2016 at 9:20:24 AM

10/10. Drax gives the best hugs.


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