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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

nervmeister Since: Oct, 2010
#63751: Oct 17th 2016 at 7:20:09 AM

But seriously, an Inhumans film with Crystal as the viewpoint protagonist.

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Funny but not helpful
#63752: Oct 17th 2016 at 8:15:51 AM

She'd be a better Avatar than had previously been seen on the big screen

Forever liveblogging the Avengers
Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#63753: Oct 17th 2016 at 8:19:00 AM

I certainly hope that the Inhumans will be back on the schedule for phase 4.

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#63754: Oct 17th 2016 at 8:34:22 AM

By that point, Agents of SHIELD will probably be over, so I hope we also get appearances by Daisy and Yo-Yo.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#63755: Oct 17th 2016 at 8:57:35 AM

I'm still curious to see what, if any plans they still have for the franchise now that Perlmutter is no longer head honcho at the studio.

nervmeister Since: Oct, 2010
#63756: Oct 17th 2016 at 8:59:48 AM

She'd be a better Avatar than had previously been seen on the big screen
Hah! evil grin

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#63757: Oct 17th 2016 at 9:54:59 AM

I don't want Agents of Shield to end anytime soon...sigh....but then, Supernatural was once supposed to have five season. So I guess there is hope.

But seriously, I wouldn't be surprised if after The Inhumans, The Savage lands is the next "obscure property" Marvel tests out.

The Inhumans themselves...weather Perlmutter wanted them or not, it makes sense to adapt them. And who knows, there is the hope that the delay is mostly related to Marvel getting rights back. Maybe Namor. Hopefully Fantastic Four. If they get those rights, it would be time to work on "Doom" the movie about a poor noble whose life got ruined by a bunch of irresponsible explorers.....

edited 17th Oct '16 9:57:12 AM by Swanpride

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#63758: Oct 17th 2016 at 1:28:34 PM

[up] Wasn't there trouble determining who actually owned the Savage Land on film?

edited 17th Oct '16 1:29:17 PM by Prowler

Unsung it's a living from a tenement of clay Since: Jun, 2016
it's a living
#63759: Oct 17th 2016 at 1:52:34 PM

Yeah, it's another one of those things. Namor too. The Savage Land first showed up in X-Men comics, while one of Namor's claims to fame is being 'the First Mutant'...which he's not, canonically (because Wolverine, Apocalypse, Mystique sometimes, Exodus, Selene), but his comics have been around the longest, even if he wasn't said to be a mutant until later.

edited 17th Oct '16 2:00:59 PM by Unsung

kkhohoho (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#63760: Oct 17th 2016 at 1:59:08 PM

[up]Heck, mutants weren't even created until later. If someone was born with Superpowers in The Golden Age, then that was it; no more, no less. Either there was some bogus explanation, or it just kind of happened.

Unsung it's a living from a tenement of clay Since: Jun, 2016
it's a living
#63761: Oct 17th 2016 at 2:00:37 PM

Well, Namor was half-human, half-Atlantean too, so what that says about Atlanteans (are *they* mutant humans?) is anyone's guess.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#63762: Oct 17th 2016 at 3:07:44 PM

The legal trouble with Namor had nothing to do with Fox though. Universal Studios had licensed the rights to the character years ago (they even had Namor stuff at their theme park) but the movie never got made. The license lapsed not too long ago but Kevin Feige said there are still other parties involved that'd make it difficult to put Namor onscreen.

higherbrainpattern Since: Apr, 2012
#63763: Oct 17th 2016 at 9:20:52 PM

I feel like more than half the conversations in this thread are about the properties that the MCU doesn't have access to....yet, while the other half is fervently hoping that those properties will fall into Marvel Entertainment's lap somehow. tongue

edited 17th Oct '16 9:26:41 PM by higherbrainpattern

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#63764: Oct 17th 2016 at 9:22:38 PM

Well I guess there hasn't been much to talk about otherwise until Doctor Strange comes out.

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VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#63765: Oct 17th 2016 at 9:24:32 PM

At least we aren't the DCEU threadsurprised

Unsung it's a living from a tenement of clay Since: Jun, 2016
it's a living
#63766: Oct 17th 2016 at 9:25:39 PM

[up][up][up]Well, now that they're really committed to doing this stuff *well*, it's only natural. grin

[up][up][up][up]Oh, is that what it was? Huh. Did Disney somehow not get Namor when they came to their arrangement with Universal?

edited 17th Oct '16 9:26:13 PM by Unsung

shatterstar Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: I wanna know about these strangers like me
#63767: Oct 17th 2016 at 10:10:16 PM

[up][up] Let me guess: That thread would just be people fighting over what direction the DCEU should take, which movie is the least bad (or even if they're bad at all), conspiracy about Marvel / Disney bribe the critics and whether or not Zack Snyder is a hack or an underappreciate genius (or both, depend on the property). Am I missing anything?

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#63768: Oct 17th 2016 at 10:14:31 PM

[up][up]Come on, taking about Superman being good or not over and over and over is funtongue

In my case, I dont have much to said since I already vent all my complain of Marvel in the other thread and I havent seen the netflix shows and one can only complain about Ward before it get boring* so I just avoiding this thread for the moment

  • :it never get boringsmile

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#63769: Oct 17th 2016 at 10:25:25 PM

So far I've been thinking mostly about deep voiced actors for Dormammu, but what about someone like Mark Hamill?

In fact, Mark as any one of Dr. Strange's eldritch, terrifyingly powerful antagonists would be awesome. Honestly, I just want to see Mark Hamill in a superhero movie, preferably Marvel.

edited 17th Oct '16 10:25:49 PM by KnownUnknown

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#63771: Oct 17th 2016 at 10:35:20 PM

Man, I can't believe Maria Hill was the Soul Gem all along.

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#63772: Oct 17th 2016 at 11:55:28 PM

So _____ dies.

And _____ dies.

And _____ dies.

And everyone dies!

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#63773: Oct 17th 2016 at 11:56:23 PM

Of course everyone dies! Thanos is in love with Death!

I mean, I expected everyone to die, but I totally didn't expect the Spanish Inquisition.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#63775: Oct 18th 2016 at 12:38:26 AM

Lately the DCEU threat has been mostly about people denying that there is anything wrong with the DCEU movies while attacking other people for being "biased"...which is exactly why it got shut down now.

Fox has the rights to the X-men and to the use of the word mutant in a Marvel context. They don't have the right to every character in Marvel comics which was labelled a mutant at one point (which is why Marvel can use characters like Scarlet Witch, Quake and soon Squirrel girl). So no, when it comes to Namor, Fox doesn't have the lone rights.

I think I have read somewhere that the Savage Lands are a shared property, but if that is true, that would be even more reason to be the first out of the gate unless Marvel is currently trying to figure out some rights issues with Fox and doesn't want to rock the boat. Anyway, I think it would be way more problematic to do Captain Britain and Co because those stories are tightly interwoven with the X-men.

[up] Baskin Robins does. They always find out.

edited 18th Oct '16 12:41:03 AM by Swanpride


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