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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
It sort of says something that we've gotten insight into all the netflix big villains except Nobu.
Fisk? Got flashbacks and characterization.
Kilgrave? Flashbacks and characterization.
Cornell and Stryker? Flashbacks and characterization.
It seems like they were so busy backdoor piloting Punisher with flashbacks and characterization that they forgot that Nobu was the ostensible villain of DD s2. Either that or they didn't think the leader of an evil ninja cult needed to be anything more than yellow peril.
edited 9th Oct '16 10:37:01 AM by Bocaj
Forever liveblogging the AvengersI saw some people on the MCU subreddit saying that Gao appeared at about the 1:00 mark of the Iron Fist trailer.
Additionally, one of the other previews they showed at the convention had somebody mention the Crane Mother, which a lot of people think will be Gao.
Have you any dreams you'd like to sell?I like Madame Gao. She's a stereotype, but she's playing on other people's expectations. That self-awareness makes all the difference.
A flashback could've been awesome, and it's not like the other gang leaders (and Cottonmouth) aren't stereotypes in their own way— they just get to be something more, too. I suspect the back half of Season 2 was rushed out the door. They didn't really know what to do with the Hand, they couldn't afford to hire a bunch of guest stars or film on location in Japan or built a Japanese-looking set. Which, okay, fine, that's reality, but then you probably shouldn't have focused so heavily on the Hand. Give us Elektra as the villain of the season, because she *does* get a flashback
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Madame Gao indeed appears in the Iron Fist trailer, after what I assume to be the back of David Wenham, who plays a business partner of Danny's father/parents. and is pretty decidedly a villain. Bad Faramir!
Maybe they changed their plans for the Hand being the Defenders main adversary? Thus Sigourney Weaver.
I love Madame Gao, both the character and the actress, who does a superb job of dressing down a guy who is much younger, roughly twice her size and height and looks like he could break her. But there needs to be a better balance between characters who are clichés and those who aren't. Luke Cage did better with that on the whole - Cottonmouth and Mariah Dillard both have elements that push them beyond just being stereotypes.
edited 9th Oct '16 10:50:19 AM by hollygoolightly
Bleeding Cool has some wild speculation on who Sigourney Weaver could play.
I still say she's Ruby Thursday.
Here's what I want in The Defenders:
- Misty, Colleen, Claire, and Trish all being a part of the team.
- A hallway fight scene with Luke and Danny being Back-to-Back Badasses.
- A Misty and Colleen fight scene.
- Jessica mocking Daredevil's costume.
edited 9th Oct '16 10:55:04 AM by alliterator
x5 The only thing I would like about his speculated character is the idea of Sigourney Weaver playing a nun. Honestly, though, having a villain that is mainly about Daredevil sounds like a really, really bad idea so I'm hoping it's not that. Wouldn't it make the most sense if she was somehow connected to illegal experimentation? All of the heroes' origin stories seem to go into that direction so far.
edited 9th Oct '16 10:57:32 AM by hollygoolightly
Someone once joked they should discuss their origins.
Luke and JJ: Experiment.
DD: Accident.
Danny: I hugged a dragon to death.
(Stunned Silence as everyone figures out if he's serious or not)
edited 9th Oct '16 10:59:03 AM by Gaon
"All you Fascists bound to lose."Jessica was in a car accident too. This company needs to secure its trucks better, something.
Ruby Thursday, villain for the original Defenders. I like that shapeshifting supercomputer chess-pawn head she's got. She does kind of look like someone Luke Cage would fight, if Diamondhead is any indication.
edited 9th Oct '16 11:21:03 AM by alliterator
GOTG 2 would be a good means to introduce the Makluans which would set up for either a loosely adapted Secret Invasion or Iron Man arc. If you cant have the Mandarin, then at least have the awesome alien dragons behind most of his origin.
edited 9th Oct '16 11:50:08 AM by nervmeister
I wouldn't even be bothered about the vagueness of Black Sky...in fact, that was kind of the thing they explained the best, with the whole "it doesn't matter if Black Sky is real if those people believe that it is" talk. But would it have killed them to clarify "if you want to kill them, you have to remove their heads"? Or "They can reanimate people exactly once"? Or whatever the rules is. As well as explaining where they are coming from and what the giant hole is about. It looks creepy, but why the hell am I supposed to be afraid of it? Not to mention that it is still sitting there, with or without Elektra, and Matt didn't look like he had any intention to take care of it.
I guess at this point the answer to how Jessica got her powers would be "I don't know". The accident might have caused it (that's what happened in the comics, right?), but it is equally possible that she had the abilities beforehand and the accident just activated it. I read a great theory that Jessica's actual power boils down to "what doesn't kill her makes her stronger"....meaning the accident kind of forced her body into building up defences against future hits, and when Killgrave kept controlling her, at one point her abilities kicked in an built up the ability to fight off mind control. I wouldn't be surprised if it works against all kind of mind control, even the mind stone.

Nobu definitely needed a backstory flashback, considering how literally every single other main villain got one. Kingpin, Purple Man, Cottonmouth, and Diamondback all got one, and Nobu doesn't.