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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
WikiLeaks and Edward Snowden were also a hot topic when Winter Soldier came out, which is why the film ends with the protagonists WikiLeaking all of S.H.I.E.L.D.'s data. People at the time were still in the honeymoon phase of WikiLeaks and worshipping the ground Snowden walked on.
It's funny 'cause the perception of WikiLeaks has gone massively downhill in recent months with heavy suspicions that it is, and always has been, a Russian foreign intelligence attack on the U.S. And the person who leaked all of S.H.I.E.L.D.'s data is a Soviet spy....
And every life in Sokovia would have been lost if he hadn't, too. Age of Ultron implicitly presents Fury flipping Cap the middle finger as a good thing, then somehow lets Cap take moral credit for it anyway.
edited 12th Sep '16 7:29:45 AM by TobiasDrake
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.At the time, they were basically the same topic. WikiLeaks entered the public consciousness through Snowden's actions. He put them on the map.
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.edited 12th Sep '16 8:08:15 AM by alliterator
I know. I was agreeing with you. Sometimes I respond directly to posts to support what they're saying rather than argue against it.
edited 12th Sep '16 8:15:27 AM by TobiasDrake
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.The problem with the ending was sort of short-sighted in the grand scheme of things. Expecting that a team of six people could more effectively protect the world than a massive army of peace-keeping agents was a nice as a Wham Line but in practice they would have been boned if it weren't for not-SHIELD.
edited 12th Sep '16 8:35:01 AM by comicwriter
I never saw the Hydra reveal as invalidating the discussion because its not like these are original hydras, excepting Zola.
Hydra is the comic book costume it wears but it represents a real, if exaggerated thing. A lean towards fascism, siding with security over liberty. When you look at some of the shady stuff that's happened in US history, it fits right in. In-universe, if anything, Hydra just gave a name to a trend that already existed.
All the hydra people in Winter Soldier, again excepting Zola, are home grown.
Forever liveblogging the AvengersMCU Hydra aren't Nazis. Other than that, I agree.
edited 12th Sep '16 8:50:55 AM by windleopard
I'd say having Fury be manipulated by an organization more evil than the Nazis and Natasha leaking SHIELD's secrets online as heroic is the movie telling us where the line should be drawn.
I think this article does a pretty good job of discussing Winter Soldier's flaws
No, the skull looks a little too big for the body and the rest of him doesn't look metal enough. The jacket's too tame and the jeans and sneakers are just boring. The Rider should be metal from head to toe and needs a way more gritty setting than Ao S.
I'm guessing you mean metal as in 'that concert was totally metal and awesome' and not metal as in Terminator (or 2099, I suppose). I do think that skull could be smaller and the flames more...dramatic? That could still happen, though. Flames do move, is the thing. I also wonder if this is going to be a good fit for AOS's tone, whether it's too light or whether this makes it darker. Guess we're about to find out.
edited 12th Sep '16 10:04:33 AM by Unsung
Interestingly
apparently Wong wasn't going to be in the Strange movie initially, but they put him in because they didn't want there to be no Asian people in it after the Swinton casting.
It amuses me that they were forced to put in the actual legwork to make Wong a less racially problematic character due to having used up their gimmes handling their other racially problematic character.
On the other hand, I like this line:
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That's how I feel about it, as far as Tilda Swinton goes. I would like to see more Asian characters on the screen, but not if the only way that happens is for them to play wise old senseis and ninjas.
In fact, leaving Wong out was probably an attempt to *avoid* the problematic nature of having a Chinese valet, an Asian whose purpose is to sidekick for a white guy. And yet this movie does have some pretty phenomenal actors in its cast, so it's hard to fault some of those decisions entirely— Chiwetel Eijofor, Mads Mikkelsen, and Tilda Swinton all in the same movie? Under any other circumstances, I'd be nothing but enthusiastic.
The situation is quite fraught. It's difficult to add many more characters of note to this kind of movie. Doctor Strange has always spent much of his time wandering the world alone, as wizards are wont to do.
edited 12th Sep '16 1:12:22 PM by Unsung
That's basically what he says. He didn't want Wong in it because he thought the whole Asian manservant thing would seem offensive in 2016 (which to be fair, those old Strange comics are pretty fucking cringe worthy at times) but once they realized they were gonna have to use him, they came up with a way to work him in without being a stereotype.
Looks like Ben Barnes
from the Chronicles of Narnia movies will be playing a villain in the Punisher Tv show.
A video on temp music, highlighting the MCU specifically
.
I think the video makes some good points about the over-pervasiveness of temp music influencing soundtracks, but it needs more to say on why more classic soundtracks like its initial examples (Star Wars, Harry Potter, James Bond) stay memorable. Sure, most can remember the Harry Potter theme, but how many themes can one remember from Harry Potter besides the main one? With Star Wars, at least, more people remember stuff besides the opening theme; The Force theme and the Imperial March are also well known.
edited 12th Sep '16 12:59:25 PM by Tuckerscreator

edited 12th Sep '16 7:11:30 AM by alliterator