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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
RavenWilder Since: Apr, 2009
#62178: Sep 9th 2016 at 8:45:49 PM

There's a proverb that says "Generals always fight the last war", meaning they plan for future conflicts by making the preparations they wish they could have made for the previous conflict. I like how Civil War has this be the case for Tony and Steve without having to point it out: Tony's looking to prevent something like Age of Ultron from happening again, while Steve's looking to prevent something like Winter Soldier from happening again.

AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#62179: Sep 9th 2016 at 8:46:33 PM

That's...actually kinda brilliant.

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Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#62180: Sep 9th 2016 at 10:07:24 PM

And Age of Ultron was Tony trying to stop The Avengers from happening again.

edited 9th Sep '16 10:08:00 PM by Tuckerscreator

MedusaStone Since: Jan, 2015
#62181: Sep 9th 2016 at 10:29:44 PM

You know what I want to see in Infinity War? I want Chris Evans!Steve Rogers. Think about it. Steve will have most likely been on the run/in hiding the whole time (from the end of Civil War to however far into Infinity War it takes to track him down. It seems reasonable that he would've changed his appearance. Say, dark hair and a beard? Even if they change it back to his normal look once he puts the uniform back on, I'd still get a kick out of it.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#62182: Sep 9th 2016 at 11:22:25 PM

Wait, damage control is still in play? We heard so little about the show, I somehow assumed ABC has already passed it over, especially in the light of DC doing Powerless.....

I guess that Netflix might change their mind and do three shows a year with one of them dropping in the summer....would be perfect imho.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#62183: Sep 10th 2016 at 6:10:32 AM

Maybe he'll come out looking like Curtis from Snowpiercer.

higherbrainpattern Since: Apr, 2012
#62184: Sep 10th 2016 at 9:03:51 AM

That would be pretty badass.

Snowpiercer is great.

Spinosegnosaurus77 Ramen Fairy from Ontario, Canada Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: All I Want for Christmas is a Girlfriend
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#62185: Sep 10th 2016 at 9:40:24 AM

Do we know if War Machine & Falcon will be in Infinity War?

edited 10th Sep '16 9:43:22 AM by Spinosegnosaurus77

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AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#62186: Sep 10th 2016 at 10:00:17 AM

There's not really a reason why they shouldn't be.

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Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#62187: Sep 10th 2016 at 10:06:53 AM

I think it is a pretty safe bet that every single Avengers, present or past or just there for the Civil War squirm, will be there. Question is how many of their supporting players will be there and when the Got G will turn up.

Spinosegnosaurus77 Ramen Fairy from Ontario, Canada Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: All I Want for Christmas is a Girlfriend
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#62188: Sep 10th 2016 at 10:12:28 AM

I had a feeling they'd show up; I just wanted to ask since they haven't been officially confirmed.

Peace is the only battle worth waging.
VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
Spinosegnosaurus77 Ramen Fairy from Ontario, Canada Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: All I Want for Christmas is a Girlfriend
Ramen Fairy
#62190: Sep 10th 2016 at 10:14:48 AM

[up] They're the only major players who haven't been officially confirmed yet. They'll probably show up, but I just found it odd that they haven't been confirmed yet.

edited 10th Sep '16 10:15:13 AM by Spinosegnosaurus77

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Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#62191: Sep 10th 2016 at 10:37:04 AM

[up] There is nothing odd about this...there wasn't any talk about them because they don't belong to the bunch of actors whose contracts are already fulfilled and who had to agree to show up for both parts of Infinity war.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#62192: Sep 10th 2016 at 10:41:10 AM

Something just occurred to me...did anyone ever notice that Marcus and Mc Feely basically write those movies as a bunch of set-up and fall-outs? Meaning, Captain America sets up Steve waking up in a different world, but the actual fall-out of this is discussed in The Winter Soldier. The Winter Soldier sets up that Bucky is still around, but the actual fall-out of what this means, with all possible consequences is the topic of Civil War. Civil War sets up the Fall-out of the Avengers (and I still think that the actual Civil War isn't quite over yet but will dominate the whole phase 3, which is exactly the reason why it is the first movie of this phase and not the big finale of the last), so if they follow their pattern wouldn't that mean that Infinity War will deal with that fall-out, while only setting up the Infinity War which in turn will happen one movie later?

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#62193: Sep 10th 2016 at 11:17:31 AM

All six original Avengers plus Scarlet Witch, Bucky, T'Challa, and Captain Marvel have been confirmed. Falcon is very likely, but War Machine is much more uncertain.

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#62194: Sep 10th 2016 at 11:58:09 AM

Falcon is almost definitely gonna be there. War Machine is a bit iffy. I can't shake the feeling that the reason they crippled him in Civil War is because Don Cheadle is considering retiring from the role, so the ambiguous nature of the situation gives him a good out if he decides he doesn't want to reprise it.

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comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#62195: Sep 10th 2016 at 2:35:04 PM

It needs to be remembered that the movie won't be out until 2018 and hasn't even begun filming, nor have we gotten any official cast list yet. Anyone that's been confirmed for the movie has been by comments made by the filmmakers.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#62196: Sep 10th 2016 at 2:49:45 PM

Filming starts towards the end of this year, and continues on for nine months. Seems kind of early for them to start when they haven't even come close to starting for Black Panther which comes out before either film, but then again it's unusually long to begin with. Who they have onset at the beginning is not necessarily indicative of the whole cast.

edited 10th Sep '16 2:50:13 PM by AlleyOop

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#62197: Sep 10th 2016 at 3:04:34 PM

Well, they are filming both movies back to back. Plus, those a CGI heavy movies, and they intend to shoot them completely in Imax. In order to get the best result, it is better to start early, so that there is enough time for the technical aspects.

edited 10th Sep '16 3:08:02 PM by Swanpride

Spinosegnosaurus77 Ramen Fairy from Ontario, Canada Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: All I Want for Christmas is a Girlfriend
Ramen Fairy
#62198: Sep 10th 2016 at 4:16:08 PM

This article lists Cumberbatch among the Infinity War cast. While I wouldn't be at all surprised if he appeared, has he been confirmed?

Peace is the only battle worth waging.
comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#62199: Sep 10th 2016 at 4:48:48 PM

Nope. That's the problem with Wikipedia. [up][up][up]Part of it is also probably to accommodate actor schedules. If as expected this is truly the entire (movie) MCU in one movie then that's gonna be a nightmare to coordinate.

edited 10th Sep '16 4:49:02 PM by comicwriter

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#62200: Sep 10th 2016 at 5:22:11 PM

[up][up] At the least they've said Dr. Strange plays a major role in the plot, which I mostly found out about from the handwringing it caused among the Cumberhaters. I assume they mean the character rather than the film.

edited 10th Sep '16 5:23:31 PM by AlleyOop


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