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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

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#62151: Sep 9th 2016 at 8:36:12 AM

Black Panther gets a lot of credit for having no patience for combat banter, but Sam was doing it before it was cool.

But nobody credits Sam for it. It's because he's black, isn't it?

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#62152: Sep 9th 2016 at 8:41:02 AM

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Hence why I'm kinda nervous about this new movie one of the Guardians of the Galaxy script writers is making with Alex Hirsch. Often you'll have numerous people editing the scripts of movies without being credited. Heck, one guy edited the script for Men in Black 3 so that it could make Will Smith's dialogue more "Will Smith" or something and the main writers didn't even know it.

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higherbrainpattern Since: Apr, 2012
#62153: Sep 9th 2016 at 1:05:20 PM

[up] You mean the Detective Pikachu movie with Nicole Perlman and Alex Hirsch?

edited 9th Sep '16 1:05:32 PM by higherbrainpattern

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#62154: Sep 9th 2016 at 1:22:47 PM

Yeah, that one.

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#62155: Sep 9th 2016 at 1:24:59 PM

Jessica Jones won a Peabody Award (who would have ever thought that a Superhero show would be honoured in this way?)

It barely even feels like a superhero show anyways. There's people with powers and stuff but it plays out more like a noir detective drama with some fantastical elements.

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#62156: Sep 9th 2016 at 1:33:46 PM

Which is exactly what the comic did, too.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#62157: Sep 9th 2016 at 3:13:07 PM

[up][up] Well, the comic book genre has a little bit more to offer than the standard plots we tend to get on the big screen outside of the MCU. Which is why I am so happy that Marvel is exploring all those different genres...I wouldn't want to start reading comics (too confusing) but I love that we now get the highlights in a handy new package.

It just occurred to me...if the do the Planet Hulk storyline with the arena elements, doesn't that mean that Ragnarok might end up being a Sword and Sandal movie?

I am also still hopeful that the next Got G might end up being a pirate movie....

The possibilities are endless! Well, not really, at one point they will have covered most of the possible genres, but still.

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#62158: Sep 9th 2016 at 3:35:36 PM

@bottom of last page: was that man Will Smith, by any chance?

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#62159: Sep 9th 2016 at 3:45:14 PM

No, but it was somebody whose job it is to apparently rewrite dialogue for his movies to be more "Will Smith" or something. I'd read it on Cracked some time back.

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#62160: Sep 9th 2016 at 3:54:44 PM

How close to sword-and-sandal Ragnarok gets is hard to know at this point, but it's a gladiator movie at the very least. On a related note, however, I didn't know until recently that Jeff Goldblum's Grandmaster was one of the Elders of the Universe and thus billions of years old— as are Ego the Living Planet, not to mention the Collector. That seems like such a Jack Kirby twist to have, and I love it. Maybe they'll all have some cameo in Infinity War? Even if it's just a few seconds or a flashback, that cast list is shaping up to be *legendary*.

Any readers with deeper comic book knowledge than me care to comment?

edited 9th Sep '16 3:55:43 PM by Unsung

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#62161: Sep 9th 2016 at 3:58:47 PM

That's a common thing for popular actors. They have people whose job it is to make sure their public image isn't harmed in anyway, so they'll often have ghost writers look over scripts to make sure there's nothing in it that might negatively impact public perception of them.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#62162: Sep 9th 2016 at 4:29:09 PM

Since we spend so much time discussing the problematic aspects of the movie, it is perhaps time for a little bit praise.

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#62163: Sep 9th 2016 at 4:50:34 PM

Huh. Pretty good vid.

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#62164: Sep 9th 2016 at 6:08:47 PM

Meh. The film isn't exactly underrated here from what I can tell.

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#62165: Sep 9th 2016 at 6:09:26 PM

I've been telling all of you the movie was fine for a while now! Glad someone sees that I'm right.

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alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#62166: Sep 9th 2016 at 6:17:20 PM

I love Age of Ultron. There's a lot of depth in it that people tend to gloss over. I wrote about some of them here.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#62167: Sep 9th 2016 at 6:40:21 PM

I wonder if they can get communication guy to made an appearance in Agents of Shield....

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#62168: Sep 9th 2016 at 6:46:41 PM

Is it just me or has this thread been quieter lately?

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#62169: Sep 9th 2016 at 6:46:51 PM

[up][up]They'd probably kill him.

edited 9th Sep '16 6:47:19 PM by KnownUnknown

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#62170: Sep 9th 2016 at 6:49:35 PM

What impresses me the most about the MCU is how it built up the different Philosophies of Tony and Steve through multiple movies. I am not even sure how much of this was intended, but they did it.

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#62171: Sep 9th 2016 at 6:51:04 PM

[up][up][up] Well, there was a very lively discussing in the MCU v DCEU threat....and I guess we are currently all laying in wait for Doctor Strange and Luke Cage and the next season of Agents of Shield....M Arvel really needs to come up with a summer show to tide me over...

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#62172: Sep 9th 2016 at 6:52:59 PM

Yeah, I figured the MCU vs. DCEU thread was causing this.

Though it feels weird that I checked in there and suddenly there was a discussion on Deadpool being a romantic comedy.

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alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#62173: Sep 9th 2016 at 6:56:28 PM

Shows currently in production:

  • Luke Cage (Netflix, airing September 30)
  • Iron Fist (Netflix, airing sometime in 2017)
  • The Defenders (Netflix, airing sometime in 2017)
  • Jessica Jones Season 2 (Netflix, airing sometime in 2018)
  • The Punisher (Netflix, unknown airdate)
  • Daredevil Season 3 (Netlifx, unknown airdate)
  • Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. Season 4 (ABC, airing September 20)
  • Cloak and Dagger (Freeform, unknown airdate)

Shows that might air:

  • Damage Control (ABC, pilot ordered)
  • Runaways (Hulu, pilot ordered)

We could get Cloak and Dagger as a summer show. I think Freeform has their shows on in the summer. Or we could get Runaways on Hulu.

edited 9th Sep '16 8:08:33 PM by alliterator

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#62174: Sep 9th 2016 at 6:59:53 PM

What impresses me the most about the MCU is how it built up the different Philosophies of Tony and Steve through multiple movies. I am not even sure how much of this was intended, but they did it.

I like that it seems (superficially) counterintuitive. The flashy playboy ends up on the side of law, and the good soldier chooses freedom no matter the cost. Tony, irrepressible and irresponsible with no one who could tell him no all his life, believes people need control, limitations, a watchful eye— but Steve Rogers, bullied, pushed down, and rejected, but always holding onto that powerful moral compass, still believes in other people, in individuals.

Because the strong man who has known power all his life, may lose respect for that power, but a weak man knows the value of strength, and knows... compassion.

That cuts both ways, interestingly. Steve trusts other people because he's always had a deep, innate sense of right and wrong, a lack of doubt, a deep-rooted perseverance. Tony, meanwhile, can't put the same faith in others, because when push comes to shove, he doesn't trust himself.

edited 9th Sep '16 7:21:17 PM by Unsung

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#62175: Sep 9th 2016 at 7:51:09 PM

[up][up]Don't forget Daredevil Season 3.

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