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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#61651: Aug 18th 2016 at 11:29:58 PM

The only hope I have is that Mary Jane won't be in this movie at all. It is simply too early for her to turn up. And with Liz and Betty already on the casting list, there is really no need to add another potential love interest.

edited 18th Aug '16 11:31:29 PM by Swanpride

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#61652: Aug 18th 2016 at 11:41:59 PM

[up][up] Other interesting stuff: between Ned Leeds and Betty Brant, it's looking likely that the Bugle will have a decent presence in the film.

Woodbine is credited as "Shocker #2." Maybe Shocker is part of a gang of people who use his tech or something? Either that or he's played by different actors when in and out of the suit. Either way, if they do what I'm thinking and have Shocker be the Rhino/Scarecrow/Batroc of the movie, I'll be very happy.

Also Sally: Sally Avril, maybe? Every character around her placement seems to be original, so she might just end up being a case of Names The Same.

edited 18th Aug '16 11:42:53 PM by KnownUnknown

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#61653: Aug 18th 2016 at 11:54:36 PM

It just hit me that funnily enough Umberto Gonzalez was also the same guy responsible for claiming that Asa Butterfield was definitely playing Spider-Man a week or two before the official announcement of his casting. and we all know how that turned out tongue.

I'm kinda curious about Martin Starr's character actually. The fact that Choi's listed as Principle Morita means they're invoking continuity with the other MCU films and Starr's character went unnamed (the novelization called him Amadeus Cho but I don't think anyone who's not a troll will argue that's actually canon) so they might mention that he's a Culver alum or something.

edited 19th Aug '16 12:05:53 AM by AlleyOop

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#61654: Aug 19th 2016 at 12:45:10 AM

Martin Starr is listed as "Mr. Harrington" and Roger Harrington was actually the name of one of the principals of Midtown High.

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#61655: Aug 19th 2016 at 1:43:47 AM

Does anyone know whether or not Groot Jr will still be voiced by Vin Diesel?

hollygoolightly Since: Apr, 2012 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#61656: Aug 19th 2016 at 2:05:52 AM

[up]I've seen Vin Diesel on casting lists for Got G 2, but I don't know how official those were. But I don't see why not?

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#61657: Aug 19th 2016 at 2:08:39 AM

[up] Well, perhaps Baby Groot needs a different kind of voice? If he talks at all that is....

jakobitis Doctor of Doctorates from Somewhere, somewhen Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
Doctor of Doctorates
#61658: Aug 19th 2016 at 5:43:04 AM

Personally I would find it pretty funny to have Twig-Groot still somehow have the same deep gravelly voice as the massive fully grown version. Or possibly he doesn't actually speak at all until he reaches a certain age/size.

"These 'no-nonsense' solutions of yours just don't hold water in a complex world of jet-powered apes and time travel."
comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
kkhohoho (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#61660: Aug 19th 2016 at 8:16:21 AM

@Swanpride:

The only hope I have is that Mary Jane won't be in this movie at all. It is simply too early for her to turn up.

Didn't stop the first movie, did it?tongue

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#61661: Aug 19th 2016 at 8:18:56 AM

[up] For one, I am one of the few people who were disappointed by the original Spider-man trilogy (the train scene is literally the only thing I like), and two, even those who did like those movies tended to be unhappy about this version of Mary Jane. I think we all want to see the fierce red-head which turns heads left and right eventually...but at a point at which it isn't creepy to droll over her!

dwa824 from Gotham City Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Dating Catwoman
#61662: Aug 19th 2016 at 8:40:08 AM

So is Zendaya playing Mary Jane or not? She was listed as playing her on Spider-Man Homecoming's trope page last night but now she's back to Michelle.

"I won't let fear compromise who I am."
comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#61663: Aug 19th 2016 at 8:46:10 AM

There is no official word so we should wait for that. Right now Mary Jane is a rumor.

Flood-and-Flame Since: Sep, 2014
#61664: Aug 19th 2016 at 11:13:41 AM

Though it is a plausible rumour. Given that the other teen characters have been confirmed to be playing people from the comics it would be a little weird if the only original character was the main love interest.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#61665: Aug 19th 2016 at 11:20:12 AM

They already said Zendaya's character would just be a female character named Michelle, and than Liz Allan was going to be the main love interest. No indication that this "Michelle" would be a love interest too. If she is indeed MJ, it would mean they're taking the slow-burn approach with the two's relationship. Which would not be a bad idea actually.

Punisher286 Since: Jan, 2016
#61666: Aug 19th 2016 at 11:32:52 AM

Funny thing is, the report that I read awhile back seemed to indicate that Zendaya would have a relatively small presence in Homecoming, but that she'd be "weaved" in and out throughout the film and her role would expand in future films. Which could very well point to her being MJ as well. And given the changes that they've already made, the whole "it's too early" thing is kind of irrelevant as far as the MCU is concerned.

I think that it's more likely than not that she is MJ, and I've felt that for awhile for several reasons. Also BTW, I've seen pictures of her with red hair and she pulls it off pretty well imo.

LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#61667: Aug 19th 2016 at 12:02:41 PM

I don't care if she's Mary Jane or not (though I don't expect them to have her hair be red in that case which I can't say I'm a fan of but it's whatever) but I really don't want them to take the "surprise reveal" approach because that just screams of patting themselves on the back. It's like they're saying "I bet you didn't expect this to be MJ! See how progressive we're being!?" If she's playing her then just come out and say it.

edited 19th Aug '16 12:04:46 PM by LordVatek

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BigK1337 Since: Jun, 2012
#61668: Aug 19th 2016 at 12:22:21 PM

[up] If they are going with the surprise route, I hope it is in the same way as how MJ debuted in the comics as a sort of reverse catfish rather than what you described.

But that would mean not revealing who her actress is at all to begin with or place a bunch of question marks by the actress name cause that would be a major Captain Obvious Reveal right there.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#61669: Aug 19th 2016 at 12:29:26 PM

  • shrugs* At this point I am mostly curious how all those young actors will perform in a big blockbuster movie.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#61670: Aug 19th 2016 at 1:58:48 PM

[up][up]IMO it'd be difficult to pull off. Like Khan or Blofeld pretty much anyone with any cursory knowledge of Spider-Man would probably assume a female lead not named Gwen Stacy is gonna end up being Mary Jane.

stingerbrg Since: Jun, 2009
comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#61673: Aug 19th 2016 at 2:35:01 PM

Hey if they could do Civil War without making it a Dork Age and having Tony be an evil little jackboot then I'm sure they could do Carlie Cooper without making her completely suck.

SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Love is Love is Love
#61674: Aug 19th 2016 at 2:36:31 PM

No one should be Carlie Cooper.

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