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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
The apparent lack of red hair is something of a point of concern for me, I'll grant you that. Her most striking visual characteristic, gone? I'm all for casting a non-white actress in the role, but some things are just a bridge too far.
I'm only half-serious, really.
Oh God! Natural light!I'm not ready to fully celebrate the casting until we have official confirmation, because it could still be just misreported at this point. Remember, this project has a precedent for misreported casting decisions.
At the same time, according to some of the rumors, they intended this to be a sort of twist reveal ("whoah, she's Mary Jane!"), so if that's true then there's good reason for them to be trying to keep the casting on the down-lo - they were trying to preserve the twist.
Assuming it's true, then it is kind of hilarious how many originally white red-haired characters are getting Race Lifted. It's obviously a positive thing, but the weirdly specific trend is still funny. Reminds me of a satirical post
the Nerds of Color wrote on the pattern, quite a while back.
Well, at least in the case of James Olsen, he has a shaved head now, so as far all we know he would have red hair if he had any hair at all.
But there really are a fair number of black people with red hair, and that's not even counting how many people dye their hair for the sake of fashion. I suppose red hair isn't exactly what you would call a defining personality trait, so they figure if they're already doing a Race Lift, hair color isn't really worth going out of their way to preserve.
"We'll take the next chance, and the next, until we win, or the chances are spent."Moral of the story is, she could easily still have red or reddish hair even after the Race Lift. And even if she doesn't, it wouldn't be a big deal.
"We'll take the next chance, and the next, until we win, or the chances are spent."It's henna hair dye, probably. I've heard it's pretty popular among some African people (particularly old dudes with grey hair) to dye their hair orange, might have gotten transferred over to African Americans.
There's also this tribe called the Mundari who use cow piss to dye their hair orange. Yes, really.
edited 18th Aug '16 9:49:34 PM by Ekuran
I read the article, and I'm skeptical - mainly because the article doesn't give us any back-up to believe the connection, and more suspiciously tries to justify that lack of information by implying that Mary Jane's identity could be a mystery in universe (like, they say the script has her character "drop hints" at her identity - and don't tell us what those hints are - as apposed to simply have her be MJ in it, and posits she could be using a pseudonym like TDKR's Talia Al Ghul).
edited 18th Aug '16 10:06:53 PM by KnownUnknown
The fact that it comes from El Mayimbe makes me more likely to believe that MJ may not be in this movie at all and he's only mentioning her name to bullshit his way into more clicks. Like El Mayimbe does. At any rate if it does turn out to be true, I can at least hope that even with her sparse fimography Zendaya will probably do a better job than Kirsten Dunst.
edited 18th Aug '16 10:19:33 PM by AlleyOop
El Mayimbe already has a bad reputation so I imagine not that many people will care yet. I'm more worried that Tumblr will overhype this to shit because they are extremely bad about factchecking and falling for flagrant hoaxes that fit with their confirmation bias.
Anyway I wouldn't concern myself too much with what "nerdbros" think. The thing about the alt-right is they love nothing more than the sound of their own voices, so it's basically giving them attention and legitimacy they don't deserve.
edited 18th Aug '16 10:41:13 PM by AlleyOop
Actually, from what I've seen this story is circulating far and wide. Pretty much every geek news outlet I follow has been repeating it (all of them only citing The Wrap), and there's already armies of people fighting on Twitter over the very idea of MJ not being white.
So it's definitely out there, and it's making a stir. Which is why I say it's going to be a shame if it all turns out to be a load of BS - a lot of people, PoC comic fans especially, are getting their hopes up.
As it stands, I find the idea itself to be perfectly plausible, but I'm still not counting my chickens until we have official confirmation.
And I couldn't care less what they think, I just like to make fun of them now and then.
edited 18th Aug '16 10:44:32 PM by RBluefish
"We'll take the next chance, and the next, until we win, or the chances are spent."Speaking of Homecoming, here's the casting list.
◊ Looks like the rumor that Shocker would be Bokeem Woodbine has been confirmed.
And Choi is listed as "Principal Morita". Guess it is a case of Identical Grandson like a lot of people predicted. Also Barbieri's character is named Jason so hopefully that'll finally put the rumors about him literally playing Ganke to rest. And the fact that there is a Ms. Warren there means she could potentially be the wife of Miles Warren, a character people have speculated Donald Glover could be playing.
edited 18th Aug '16 11:07:47 PM by AlleyOop

"So I'm guessing nobody cares about MJ Watson then? Okay."
Actually I do.
When I ask you "when" will Hollywood's incessant prejudice against gingers end?!?