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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

nervmeister Since: Oct, 2010
#61551: Aug 15th 2016 at 10:54:27 AM

You know, since Ben Affleck is playing Batman, I thought it would be delightfully ironic if Matt Damon showed up in the MCU, maybe as Cletus Cassidy.

edited 15th Aug '16 10:54:59 AM by nervmeister

thatindiantroper Since: Feb, 2015
#61552: Aug 15th 2016 at 11:14:25 AM

[up] I'm actually hoping for Two Face.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#61553: Aug 15th 2016 at 11:22:35 AM

If it wasn't for the possible One-Steve Limit, I could see Matt Damon playing Crossfire in a future Ant-Man movie.

Or maybe a Spider-Man villain, though I assume Matt would be one of those folks who always wants their face visible and few of Spider-Man's villains are like that.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#61554: Aug 15th 2016 at 11:24:56 AM

Depends on if they snatch Damon up to play Hush in the Batman solo film.

nervmeister Since: Oct, 2010
#61555: Aug 15th 2016 at 11:36:43 AM

[up]Warner Bros is actually planning to do that?

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#61556: Aug 15th 2016 at 11:50:03 AM

[up][up][up] Why would there be a One Steve Limit?

I think Crossfire was gonna appear in the Ant-Man movie at one point.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#61557: Aug 15th 2016 at 11:53:25 AM

Same last name. In fact, Crossfire is Darren Cross' cousin.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#61558: Aug 15th 2016 at 12:56:11 PM

I admit, I have developed a big dislike towards most outlets focussing on Superhero news, but especially comicbookmovie.com and uproxx. They take the most harmless remark and build a big article around it (like "how will x influence y"...the answer is usually not at all). And I really don't see the point of just linking to an article if you can summon out what it is about in once sentence. It just helps out this kind of questionable "news".

Unsung it's a living from a tenement of clay Since: Jun, 2016
it's a living
#61559: Aug 15th 2016 at 1:23:02 PM

I want to see Matt Damon play the Leader. The idea of Matt Damon stumbling around with an oversized lumpen prosthetic head is just great. To me. For some reason.

And, while I'm speculating about things that will never happen, I'd also like to see a Black Widow/Hulk movie (with William Hurt as General Ross, and whoever they can get as Betsy Ross) that riffs on World War Hulk and the Maestro, with a cameo by Robert Downey Jr so we have an excuse to pull at the strings left dangling by his visions of a dark future... Such as the one that might see the rise of the Maestro.

I'd also like to see Hawkeye, Zemo, and Ant-Man in a Thunderbolts movie— not necessarily an official Thunderbolts-titled movie, but a spiritual adaptation. Ghost, for example, the only place his industrial saboteur schtick works better than Ant-Man is Iron Man, and that's not happening. So a darker take on the Avengers (without being Dark Avengers), maybe based on the Thunderbolts' original run where we see a bunch of villains who pretend to be heroes only to discover they actually really like it.

Maybe jam it together with that first idea— yes, I know Ross was in charge of the Thunderbolts at one point, no, I don't want this to be a Red Hulk adaptation in any way— but we could get to see flashbacks of how Hawkeye and Black Widow first met onscreen, possibly Tony having to jettison the first real friend he's made in years into space (since MCU Tony and Bruce are buddies in a way they weren't in the comics)...

Anyway. Matt Damon as the Leader.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#61560: Aug 15th 2016 at 1:24:57 PM

[up][up] Nobody is forcing you to click on it.

Same last name. In fact, Crossfire is Darren Cross' cousin.

They just had two unrelated guys with the last name Ross in the same film. I doubt it's a big deal.

edited 15th Aug '16 1:26:16 PM by comicwriter

dRoy Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar from Most likely from my study Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just high on the world
Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar
#61561: Aug 16th 2016 at 6:44:46 PM

A leaked shot from The Avengers 3.

Well, not really. tongueevil grin

Continuously reading, studying, and (hopefully) growing.
KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#61562: Aug 16th 2016 at 6:47:17 PM

[up][up] One of whom is only addressed by name once, and neither of whom are anything more than supporting characters.

Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#61563: Aug 16th 2016 at 8:40:44 PM

Nick Spencer's Ant-Man has an arc of Cross being Back from the Dead and his son being involved with Avenging the Villain along with Crossfire. And Earths Mightiest Heroes used an Adaptational Badass Crossfire in Scott's origin story. So I could see them having Crossfire and have him tangentially mention he's related to the guy Scott killed in the first movie.

BigK1337 Since: Jun, 2012
#61564: Aug 16th 2016 at 8:45:36 PM

On the Matt Damon thing, either Kang, Doctor Octopus or (if they do it) Captain Marvel . . . the blonde male alien not the blonde female human.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#61565: Aug 17th 2016 at 4:33:10 AM

We'd need Fox to make a deal with Marvel first before Kang shows up in the MCU.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#61566: Aug 17th 2016 at 7:07:27 AM

One of whom is only addressed by name once, and neither of whom are anything more than supporting characters.

Okay? I'm sorry I'm just not getting the objection. I doubt anyone gives a shit about two characters who are biologically related having the same last name. You're overthinking this, a little.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#61567: Aug 17th 2016 at 8:19:16 AM

I think it's been said that Marvel can actually use Kang although Rama Tut is probably off limits. And do we really need more white Egyptians?

Forever liveblogging the Avengers
Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#61568: Aug 17th 2016 at 9:05:04 AM

You know, it's too bad that the MCU already had Ultron as an Evil Tony Stark because it would have been kind of cool to have Downey Jr. voicing an (always masked) Kang and having an ambiguity of whether he was a future version of Tony.

Edit- Alternatively/also, it would be cool for the MCU to do one of those plots about someone destined to be evil and discussing whether it can be avoided (please don't bring in Civil War II though).

Like I know this is being done with Apocalypse in the comics, whose obviously off limits, but I think it's also been done with Victor Mancha, right? You could probably do a composite wherein Kang is a future version of him and also bring in the Ultron element.

edited 17th Aug '16 9:08:50 AM by Hodor2

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#61570: Aug 17th 2016 at 11:11:15 AM

LIVE ACTION RUNAWAYS. ON HULU.

From Josh Schwartz (The OC, Gossip Girl, Chuck) and Stephanie Savage (Gossip Girl, Hart of Dixie, Astronaut Wives Club).

If it's as good as Chuck was, THIS IS GOING TO BE AWESOME.

edited 17th Aug '16 11:13:01 AM by alliterator

thatindiantroper Since: Feb, 2015
#61571: Aug 17th 2016 at 11:15:47 AM

[up] On the other hand it might be as good as Gossip Girl was.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#61572: Aug 17th 2016 at 11:17:12 AM

I do love Runaways but I also do hate Hulu

Forever liveblogging the Avengers
Unsung it's a living from a tenement of clay Since: Jun, 2016
it's a living
#61573: Aug 17th 2016 at 11:19:54 AM

]Don't ruin this moment for me.

...Although I've never seen Gossip Girl and wasn't a big fan of Chuck, now that I think of it.

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#61574: Aug 17th 2016 at 11:22:34 AM

The OC was also pretty good for its first few seasons or so I heard.

Chuck was awesome for four seasons and okay for its last season.

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#61575: Aug 17th 2016 at 11:27:12 AM

Gossip Girl was fine until the last couple of seasons lowered in quality. Then the finale ruined the series retroactively.

edited 17th Aug '16 11:41:03 AM by VeryMelon


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