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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#61426: Aug 11th 2016 at 2:28:44 PM

[up][up][up]lol

I expect them to put Carol in some sort of military uniform which has kind of the patterns of her usual costume, but not quite as bright in colour, just like Caps costume is usually toned down a bit. There is no sense in being a walking target. Well, unless you are Iron Man and simply don't care.

I think the way males and females are portrayed in traditional comic books (hey, they have learned a little bit with time) are best described this way: Male: You want to be that. Female: You want to bone that.

edited 11th Aug '16 2:31:01 PM by Swanpride

Punisher286 Since: Jan, 2016
#61427: Aug 11th 2016 at 2:31:10 PM

Also Steve wasn't wearing his actual COSTUME there. He was in civilian garb, which changes things. Thor, Cap, Star Lord, etc get shirtless scenes fair enough, but their actual costumes cover them up (well one of Thor's costumes shows off his arms, but that's not bad really). Deadpool got lots of sexual elements to him, but his actual costume covers him from head to toe. Ditto on Bale and Keaton, and Affleck getting shirtless scenes as Batman, and so on.

Which is why I make the distinction with Carol. You want a token scene or two like that with her, fine. I can deal with it as long as it's done tastefully. Turnabout is fair play I guess. But, her costume needs to make her look like the powerful, military woman that she is. Which is why her current one (aside from looking cool in-general imo), works so well. She looks like both a military person and a superhero.

edited 11th Aug '16 2:33:22 PM by Punisher286

Falrinn Since: Dec, 2014
#61428: Aug 11th 2016 at 2:33:17 PM

...Didn't this whole conversation get started because someone suggested using the old costume as an actual swimsuit while having her superhero costume based on her Captain Marvel design? If they do that they could just have it randomly in her closet as a nod to the old design, she wouldn't even have to wear it.

To me the mere fact they chose to call the movie Captain Marvel means it can be safely assumed that her costume will be based on the modern Captain Marvel design. In fact I would be astounded if it wasn't.

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#61429: Aug 11th 2016 at 2:35:04 PM

What about that old woman that Carol hung around with? She was fun.

Also, Chewbacca.

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hollygoolightly Since: Apr, 2012 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#61430: Aug 11th 2016 at 2:41:45 PM

[up][up][up]I think the original comparison was that Steve is wearing a very tight shirt in that scene and Evans gets to mightily strain his muscles, which viewers so inclined were surely supposed to notice. There is fan service here, but not at the expense of what it means what he's actually doing there, emotionally and from a character POV.

Nonetheless you are right of course, keeping the bathing suit and thigh-high boots Carol's uniform instead of sexy civilian attire is different and would take this into a territory where you wonder what kind of military she's working for. Which is what I wanted to indicate with my "if Steve had been wearing a costume like that in that scene" comparison.

edited 11th Aug '16 2:42:36 PM by hollygoolightly

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#61431: Aug 11th 2016 at 2:43:38 PM

I personally prefer the current Carol costume what with the red and the blue and the starburst and the gloves and the helmet mohawk is fine although I like the cockatoo hair better.

If that is her costume, I do wonder how Kamala will get the lightning bolt if she is ever MCU'd.

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AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#61432: Aug 11th 2016 at 3:07:51 PM

They could change it so that the lightning-bolt design was always Kamala's own designater in the films and that she's no longer trying to imitate Carol with it but that it came about some other way.

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#61433: Aug 11th 2016 at 3:11:31 PM

You can always make something up for Kamala.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#61434: Aug 11th 2016 at 3:22:02 PM

The MCU designs never really 100 percent reflect the comics anyway. For all we know Carol's outfit could still have the lightning bolt despite being based on the more modern one.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#61436: Aug 11th 2016 at 3:55:53 PM

I actually like that B one a lot. I hope they incorporate the sash into her uniform somehow. It'll probably be easier to pull off in live action on the neck than around the waist.

Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#61437: Aug 11th 2016 at 3:59:32 PM

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1. Very cool.

2. Storm called and wants her costume back (Not a bad costume though).

3. Cool.

4. Maybe my favorite.

5. Maybe my favorite.

edited 11th Aug '16 4:00:07 PM by Hodor2

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#61438: Aug 11th 2016 at 4:15:38 PM

I kinda like the first and the last one myself.

As much as I like her current look (and even if I still like her two previous ones, especially the EMH version of her first costume) I kinda wish they'd gone with one of these looks instead.

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#61439: Aug 11th 2016 at 4:19:09 PM

Regarding the difference between objectification and empowerment, this is what objectification looks like when applied to a male character.

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hollygoolightly Since: Apr, 2012 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#61440: Aug 11th 2016 at 4:22:43 PM

I like that B has gauntlets and separate boots, but naked arms is just a bad idea when you're a fighter. E is the best for colours, and I like how he incorporates the lightning bolt in that one.

nervmeister Since: Oct, 2010
#61441: Aug 11th 2016 at 4:36:38 PM

Had to drive somewhere. Anyways, I fixed the image.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#61442: Aug 11th 2016 at 5:24:03 PM

[up][up][up] And we all know how popular this was with the male audience.....

Mmm....I actually like neither option, mostly because I object to the idea of what is basically a tight-fitting second skin with some colours splashed on in. For the movies, I would like her to be in something which looks like an actual uniform, with a proper uniform jacked over proper pants.

shatterstar Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: I wanna know about these strangers like me
#61443: Aug 11th 2016 at 5:30:17 PM

@ Carol: A. Good.

B. Good.

C. Decent but the focus of the pattern that emphasize the boobs is a little weird.

D. Like the idea but the execution leave something to be desired. The bellybutton and the crotch cut is a little ugly and distracting.

E. Favorite. I feel like the people who design Kamala costume recycle this design with different color.

edited 11th Aug '16 5:30:35 PM by shatterstar

RBluefish Since: Nov, 2013
#61444: Aug 11th 2016 at 6:21:36 PM

A. Not a fan. A bit too armor-y. Which I typically don't mind, but the segmented abs don't really work for me, and the whole thing's a bit bland to the eye.

B. Too Storm-esque (and also a bit too Asgard-esque). The scarf doesn't quite seem fitting for the character, and neither do the bare arms. And I find the gauntlets and boots a tad distracting.

C. Much better, pretty good look. I don't love the blue strips on the hips - I think it would look better without them - but still a fairly solid design.

D. Almost too much going on. Weird color cuts around the pelvis and knees, and once again I'm not a fan of the blue elements.

E. Now we're talkin'. Definitely my favorite of the lot. Very simple and straightforward, but I actually like that in a costume.

Although I may actually prefer her current Captain Marvel costume to any of these, to be honest.

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nervmeister Since: Oct, 2010
tommy1138 CT-1138 from Present conditions ≠ Japan Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
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#61446: Aug 11th 2016 at 7:09:47 PM

A. Too dark. B Way too much blue. C. Feels a little off but not too bad. D. My favorite. E. Good, but it needs more detailing. Just a bit too minimalistic.

Personally, I think they should just adapt the A:EMH suit or or the current one (but with long hair).

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Ekuran Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
#61447: Aug 11th 2016 at 7:15:37 PM

I'd like a mix of D (particularly the symbol) and E (particularly the minimalism). C is pretty nice too.

edited 11th Aug '16 7:16:25 PM by Ekuran

MedusaStone Since: Jan, 2015
#61448: Aug 11th 2016 at 9:54:06 PM

I like A. Just A. I also agree that it should look like a proper uniform that could actually protect the wearer, and not liquid spandex that was painted onto her body.

hollygoolightly Since: Apr, 2012 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#61449: Aug 12th 2016 at 7:42:37 AM

I thought we were just talking it as a costume in general. In the movies, I'd expect her to wear something that looks more like actual clothes. (And maybe tone down the colours a notch. Like they did with Cap, too.)

lackofsense Since: Jan, 2013
#61450: Aug 12th 2016 at 8:19:00 AM

A cosmic character usually has different costume needs than a fighter might need and is generally far more durable than most types of armor which may interfere with energy and matter manipulation abilities.

Most Marvel 'spandex' costumes are made of a fictional material referred to as 'unstable molecules'. In the end, this allows for more freedom in regards to costumes for characters of this type.


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