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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#61301: Aug 9th 2016 at 8:40:10 PM

Danny? Actually, he first had to fight the dragon and then he hugged it until it went unconscious. Which is where he got his chest tattoo.

I'm seriously going to love it when he has to explain how he got his powers to the other Defenders.

edited 9th Aug '16 8:40:48 PM by alliterator

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#61302: Aug 9th 2016 at 8:56:03 PM

Matt might buy it. After fighting Zombie Ninjas, he might be more open to shit like that.

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#61303: Aug 9th 2016 at 9:46:11 PM

Jessica and Luke have explicit superpowers rather than superhuman-but-technically-not-impossible-heightened-senses like Daredevil, though, so they may be more inclined to believe.

Even after fighting zombie ninjas Daredevil seems pretty skeptical of the whole Chaste vs. Hand story.

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Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#61304: Aug 9th 2016 at 10:06:36 PM

Well, I like it that they kind of tied the source of the abilities of a number of people to the same source, whatever said source actually is once they get around to look behind the scenes.

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#61305: Aug 9th 2016 at 10:59:56 PM

Yeah, I phrased that poorly, I was actually asking two separate things. One, is there some comic book entity that IGH might be standing in for? Answer: possibly Weapon Plus, among other things. Fair enough.

Two, has anyone already posited that IGH might be a link for all four Defenders in the MCU (not the comics)? Matt and Jessica Jones both got their powers from a chemical spill, and Luke was apparently doused in some kind of liquid to give him his powers.

Actually, for that matter, the big urn that the Hand put Nobu and Elektra in was pumped full of liquid— specifically blood, but possibly specially treated?

I don't know. Grasping at straws here, but I have to feel like the way this is building there's going to be some connection that we're not seeing yet.

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#61306: Aug 10th 2016 at 12:17:28 AM

[up] The Hand is all mystical stuff, while Jessica and Luke seem to have gotten their powers via government experiment/accident and Matt got his due to a chemical spill, so I don't think they are connected at all.

I finally watched the last part of Daredevil Season 2 and I get why people don't like it as much. The Hand are very much generic ninja bad guys and when they attack in waves, it just makes they much easier to defeat than if Matt or Elektra was fighting only one of them. And while the first half actually posed interesting questions about whether or not Matt was making a difference without killing, in the second half, he just seemed to abandon his "no killing" policy when it didn't suit him — in the final battle, he didn't seem to care that Elektra was killing all the Hand ninjas when previously, he had tried to stop Castle from killing people during a fight. And then he goes and kills Nobu again (even though Nobu can come back from the dead).

The ending was also majorly telegraphed — from the moment we knew that Elektra was the Black Sky, I knew that she was going to die and then end up in that big urn thing to be resurrected. How they altered her backstory was pretty weird, although it worked for the most part. My only issue is that now we can't have that scene where Bullseye kills her, because Nobu already did it.

Two things I did really like in the last episode was the surprise appearance of Carrie-Anne Moss as Jeri Hogarth! And Matt finally being smart for once and just telling Karen that he was Daredevil. Thank you, telling your loved ones is smart. (Although, I mean, that did eventually lead to Born Again. But in the show, we already got a glimmer of the fact that the Kingpin was figuring out that Matt was Daredevil.)

One thing that the second half of the show did convince me of, though, was that the Punisher Netflix show is probably going to be awesome.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#61307: Aug 10th 2016 at 12:28:48 AM

Glad to see Hiddleston suiting up as Loki again. It's been a long time since we've had stuff to look at for Ragnarok, hasn't it? Nice to have, even if in this case it's just an actor goofing off.

edited 10th Aug '16 12:29:31 AM by KnownUnknown

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#61308: Aug 10th 2016 at 4:17:46 AM

The radioactive truck accident was well traveled, managing to be the origin for Daredevil, Jessica, and the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.

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#61309: Aug 10th 2016 at 6:26:57 AM

Our page for The Incredible Hulk states that "a detailed timeline of the Marvel Cinematic Universe" shows that the film takes place in 2010. Does anyone have a link to this timeline?

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Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#61310: Aug 10th 2016 at 7:33:53 AM

There is more than one timeline out there, so no. The one most people use is the one from the wikia, and that one puts TIH in 2011 (wrongly imho). My own timeline (posted over at Ao 3...I really need to find the time to go back to it) puts it in 2010, though.

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#61311: Aug 10th 2016 at 7:43:02 AM

To quote one of Nick Fury's files, "Danny Rand got his powers by winning a martial arts tournament and then fighting a dragon. Peter Parker got bit by a spider. Just doesn't seem fair."

Regarding IGH, the letter combination and the way it seems to give you temporary superpowers based on Nuke's usage has some in the audience wondering if it might be standing in for Mutant Growth Hormone or MGH - a drug derived from mutant blood that temporarily gives people the mutation they would have gotten had they been a mutant.

Suspicions abound that IGH may stand for Inhuman Growth Hormone. It's all speculation, however.

edited 10th Aug '16 7:43:12 AM by TobiasDrake

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comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#61312: Aug 10th 2016 at 8:48:05 AM

It's been a long time since we've had stuff to look at for Ragnarok, hasn't it?

There were some set photos the other day.

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#61314: Aug 10th 2016 at 9:50:16 AM

What about any of that sounds like more than one person's speculation?

Eagal Since: Apr, 2012
#61315: Aug 10th 2016 at 10:10:33 AM

Thanos is on the list. Bad guy dies in a superhero movie. What a bold and daring prediction.

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#61316: Aug 10th 2016 at 10:17:59 AM

I mean, all of them are backed by some amount of evidence, whether actor statements or comic history. None of them are relaying recent rumours or news, however.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#61317: Aug 10th 2016 at 10:23:24 AM

Feige has already said Infinity War leads to a new team of Avengers and that it "closes one chapter of the MCU" on some characters, but that's far from proof they're killing the original Avengers.

That could mean anything.

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#61318: Aug 10th 2016 at 10:24:54 AM

New teams of Avengers happen all the time in the comics, but that doesn't mean getting rid of the old Avengers. Roster change =/= throwing out the entire roster and staffing it with all new characters.

We've already seen a roster change. Age of Ultron created a new team.

  • Captain America
  • Black Widow
  • The Vision
  • The Falcon
  • War Machine
  • Scarlet Witch

Two returning Avengers, two characters who've been around but never as Avengers, and two all-new ones.

EDIT: As an aside, I was trying to remember if "Cap's Kooky Quartet" did a thing with the C/K/Q where they all share the same letter, because I wanted to make a joke about this lineup being the MCU version of it.

In the process of testing letter combos to see if they looked right, I wound up with Kap's Kooky Kuartet, which was immediately recognizable as about as far from anything Cap would ever associate himself with as possible.

edited 10th Aug '16 10:27:39 AM by TobiasDrake

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alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#61319: Aug 10th 2016 at 11:06:18 AM

I guess you could get CKQ from Captain America, Hawkeye, Quicksilver and the Scarlet Witch.

But other than that, no.

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#61321: Aug 10th 2016 at 1:31:43 PM

Had to look him up, he's that nerdy guy who gives Agent J the time travel device in Men in Black 3.

Come to think of it, Josh Brolin and Mike Colter were both in that movie.

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#61322: Aug 10th 2016 at 1:36:33 PM

Oh! He was in Orange is the New Black, THAT'S Where I recognize him from! Not bad, not bad.

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alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#61323: Aug 10th 2016 at 1:53:20 PM

I loving the fact that they are using more obscure Spider-Man villains. He has some of the weirdest villains. I hope the Shocker shows up, too.

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#61324: Aug 10th 2016 at 1:54:10 PM

I thought they confirmed Shocker a while back?

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BigK1337 Since: Jun, 2012
#61325: Aug 10th 2016 at 2:11:40 PM

As far as Spider-Man villains go, I always wanted to see them include Hammerhead.


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