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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
As I once pointed out, religious diversity is a somewhat odd request, because technically, every character on screen might follow any religion unless it is specified. We just tend to assume that a character is Christian, but in the MCU, there are only two so far which actually are, Daredevil and Steve (and in Steve's case his declaration that there is only one god doesn't that necessarily means that he is Christian either, it is just the most likely religion with him being a white guy born in 1918 in Brooklyn). Just like Eskine isn't necessarily Jewish either (just because he fled Germany it doesn't mean that he necessarily is, though he might). Anyway, the only religion Tony believes in is science and it might be the same for Bruce, Thor is a Norse god so if he is following any kind of religion we would see him as a Pagan, I guess, Natasha was raised to follow a regime, and Clint doesn't look like he cares about praying, either.
@hollygoodlightly: No problem! Funny thing is, I only recognized him retroactively from Short Term 12 like a few weeks ago.
In a world where he does get cast as Moon Knight, I want him to meet Carol, purely for the sake of the Actor Allusion.
"We'll take the next chance, and the next, until we win, or the chances are spent."Malek was fantastic in Until Dawn as Josh Washington. He can definitely handle the more intense aspects of Moon Knight no problem. If cast there's no denying he can pull it off the material. The real questions are more over whether he's got interest in the role, time in his schedule, or whether Marvel wants him in the first place.
Now, has Marvel even expressed any interest in doing a Moon Knight adaptation, or is this all just speculation/fancasting on our part? (And yeah, he did do a great job in Until Dawn.)
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Because the Jewish community has enough problems with visibility in media as it is (and that's not even getting into the other problems they have - hate crimes, harassment, property defacement, etc). It's a matter of respect - allowing them to portray their own characters. I've heard many a Jewish geek and activist espouse this viewpoint, so I'm certainly not going to challenge it.
As You Have to Have Jews explains in better detail, there is a significant number of Jewish people in the entertainment industry, including as actors, to the point that they don't have a problem with lack of representation from a staffing standpoint. However, they still usually play Gentile characters or ones who are only Ambiguously Jewish at most. It's kind of of the opposite of the problem most other ethnic minorities have when it comes to representation.
The opinions of actual Jewish people on the matter of their representation in the media is very diverse, and complicated by the fact that while there's not a lot of onscreen representation for Judaism, there is a lot of it behind the scenes. I'm really not interested in debating the politics of whether Jewish people do count as people of color or not, it's very thorny, based on artificial social constructs to begin with, and often No True Scotsman'd to hell and back and somehow the geopolitics of Israel always gets dragged in for no good reason. But with the clamoring for more representation of ethnicities more obviously "of color" to people in the US in behind-the-scenes positions such as writers, producers, and directors, a significant portion of the people and executives who fall under the "straight white boy" Tumblr epithet that would be displaced as a result do happen to be Ashkenazi Jewish, and with enough sophistry involved one could argue that it takes away representation from Jewish people, and is therefore anti-Semitic.
I wouldn't look to any one particular viewpoint as the "right" one, because it's very easy to turn into oppression olympics, or to silence the diversity of opinions within a particular ethnic group for not falling into line with those of whomever you surround yourself with. See this post for what I'm talking about, it goes both ways
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edited 7th Aug '16 3:50:53 PM by AlleyOop
As I understand it, he wasn't observant before then either— from what I've read (through summaries and blurbs following his appearances in other books), he was a violent mercenary and CIA operative who'd walked away from his father's faith years before.
He's also got multiple alter egos and some form of personality disorder where he doesn't always know who he is. The extent to which he's even a good and loyal servant of Khonshu seems to vary considerably from story to story and writer to writer.
As usual, I'm sure somebody else knows the subject better than me, but it seems relevant.
edited 7th Aug '16 4:15:21 PM by Unsung
I'll always find Moon Knight hilarious because I read the Werewolf by Night issue where he first appeared and he was just a mercenary hired to punch a werewolf to death and he decided halfway through punching a werewolf to death that he would actually pass on this job thank you but walked off with his pay and the gear they outfitted him with anyway.
Forever liveblogging the AvengersDoes the MCU have any characters explicitly state a religion beyond Dare Devil? Steve is probably a Christian of indeterminate denomination but that's it, we never see Thor, Tony, Bruce, Hawkeye or Natasha reveal any faith. Hell Natasha was raised in an atheist state, and didn't Blank Panther reveal his faith in Civil War?
So we've got what? One explicit Catholic? Steve believes in a god but he could be of any single God faith, probably either Christian or Jewish.
Wanda may be Jewish ethnically, obviously she would be if she was still Magentto's daughter but that's apparently not cannon anymore.
edited 7th Aug '16 4:41:24 PM by Silasw
“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ CyranI know in the comics, the gods had gods they believed in but they turned out to be dicks so Thor broke Ragnarok
Forever liveblogging the AvengersIf you guys want to see a show with Jewish representation, you should watch Crazy Ex-Girlfriend. Rachel Bloom, who portrays the main character, is Jewish and since she's the co-creator and writer for the show, she also made the main character Jewish as well. And there's quite a bit of Jewish humor:
As I Jew, I wouldn't mind Marc Spector being played by someone who isn't Jewish, just like I don't mind that the X-Men movies don't have anyone Jewish play Magneto. They still keep that aspect to him, though, which I think is the important part.
edited 7th Aug '16 6:08:56 PM by alliterator
Oh yeah, I've been binge-watching the first season of that. It initially came onto my radar because of the (highly laudable) portrayal of Josh Chan, but there's a lot more to love in the series than just that.
Also, that's fair. I didn't intend to speak over actual Jewish people on the subject, I was really just voicing the knee-jerk reaction I've acquired from reading various opinions on the matter. I'll stay in my lane on this one.
edited 7th Aug '16 6:10:15 PM by RBluefish
"We'll take the next chance, and the next, until we win, or the chances are spent."Ironically after all this discussion
, the Misty Knight thing was a bust.
Well, that just means she won't be appearing in Iron Fist, right? It doesn't mean they're tossing out the idea of her getting her own series. Which, again, I'll believe it when I see it, but it seems like the possibility is still out there.
"We'll take the next chance, and the next, until we win, or the chances are spent."

edited 7th Aug '16 2:47:13 PM by hollygoolightly