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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

DeathsApprentice The Ultimate Lifeform from The Ark Since: Aug, 2011 Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
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#61176: Aug 6th 2016 at 9:20:14 PM

A Misty Knight series would be totally awesome! I really want this to happen.

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Punisher286 Since: Jan, 2016
#61177: Aug 6th 2016 at 9:34:25 PM

Yeah I'd prefer a Daughters of the Dragon show to a straight up Misty Knight one as well. Not that I have anything against Misty mind you, but the idea of her and Colleen Wing kicking butt together as co-leads sounds more interesting/appealing to me overall. Maybe get Luke, Danny, and Jessica as guest stars at some point and we're good.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#61178: Aug 6th 2016 at 9:43:41 PM

Also a show with a Lovely Angels setup for the protagonists rather than solo leads would allow for a neat character dynamic.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#61179: Aug 6th 2016 at 11:45:02 PM

Didn't they already say that they would eventually go for three shows a year at one point?

Though it might be a good idea to fold Jessica Jones, Luke Cage and Iron Fist into one Heroes for Hire show anyway, which would make room for more solo leads....

Punisher286 Since: Jan, 2016
#61180: Aug 7th 2016 at 12:03:17 AM

Agreed, DD works fine on it's own. But Luke, Jessica, and Danny could easily be folded into a Heroes for Hire show I think.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#61181: Aug 7th 2016 at 12:14:53 AM

[up] Yep, the only downside of this is that it would mean to loose the female lead and the black guy lead how at once, so replacing them then with a Misty Knight show, or another team-up show with Misty Knight as the lead might be a really good idea instead of adding another white guy to the roster (not that Moon Knight HAS to be white).

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#61182: Aug 7th 2016 at 12:33:03 AM

Isn't Moon Knight's entire schtick that he may of may not have Egyptian gods talking to him?

hollygoolightly Since: Apr, 2012 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#61183: Aug 7th 2016 at 3:16:13 AM

I wouldn't want Jessica Jones to be folded up into a show with two guys, since that is guaranteed to mean we lose her as the main viewpoint. Same is likely true for Luke Cage. I'm hesitant to watch Iron Fist as it is, I don't want Ser Loras become the white guy lead for Jessica and Luke. And I don't think just exchanging them for Misty and Colleen is a the right way to go here. I like Jessica and Luke, and if Luke Cage is a good series, he should continue being the lead. You can't just swap one minority for the other and call it a day. Fold Punisher back into Daredevil, and have Iron Fist pop up on Luke Cage now and then. That would mean room for a Misty Knight series, or one with Misty Knight and Whippy Spice Girl.

edited 7th Aug '16 3:17:59 AM by hollygoolightly

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#61184: Aug 7th 2016 at 3:20:31 AM

[up] But the relationship between Luke and Jessica is a pretty important port of both of their lores, and it would be odd to tell an ongoing storyline while jumping from one show to the next.

hollygoolightly Since: Apr, 2012 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#61185: Aug 7th 2016 at 3:25:14 AM

[up]I'd rather lose the relationship than lose the tone and feel of Jessica Jones as a series. And I have hopes it might be similar for Luke Cage.

Another thing that I find very important for Jessica which I fear might be lost in a crossover series is her relationships with Trish and other women, like Hogarth and Hope. Most superhero fiction we have on screen these days doesn't feature meaningful relationships between women or even many interactions between them. In a show that has Jessica as co-lead with two men, I see these relationships becoming the focus, and I think that would be a huge waste. Even though I love her relationship with Luke, and hope they can repair it (just want to stress that them as a couple is really not my issue with this.)

The spinoff I mainly want from the Netflix shows is actually one about Claire Temple. You could combine hospital shows (always popular) with street level superheroes, and have everyday heroes like Claire on top of it. And of course you could have cameos from all the other Netflix leads.

edited 7th Aug '16 3:32:14 AM by hollygoolightly

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#61186: Aug 7th 2016 at 4:30:47 AM

I don't see Jessica losing her own show as a plus, largely because the backlash would be noticeable.

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#61187: Aug 7th 2016 at 4:37:05 AM

Besides, a Heroes for Hire show starring Luke, Jessica, and Danny would be a little redundant, considering we're also getting Defenders, which is just those three plus Daredevil.

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#61188: Aug 7th 2016 at 6:23:26 AM

edit: Wrong thread.

edited 7th Aug '16 6:23:46 AM by Kostya

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#61189: Aug 7th 2016 at 7:07:49 AM

Isn't Moon Knight's entire schtick that he may of may not have Egyptian gods talking to him?
Just one Egyptian god: Khonshu.

edited 7th Aug '16 7:07:56 AM by alliterator

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#61190: Aug 7th 2016 at 10:23:17 AM

Yeah, could just race-lift him to Egyptian fairly easily (he says, knowing very little about the character aside from that).

SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
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#61191: Aug 7th 2016 at 10:26:40 AM

Isn't Moon Knight Jewish?

My various fanfics.
comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#61192: Aug 7th 2016 at 10:29:32 AM

There aren't many Jews left living in Egypt but Jews of Arab descent across the globe are hardly uncommon.

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#61193: Aug 7th 2016 at 10:30:48 AM

Really? Cool. Wait, if he is, doesn't that make him supposedly getting his powers from an Egyptian god REALLY awkward?

[up]That too.

edited 7th Aug '16 10:31:38 AM by PushoverMediaCritic

SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
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#61194: Aug 7th 2016 at 10:33:33 AM

Yeah, that's addressed.

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windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#61195: Aug 7th 2016 at 10:48:58 AM

I wouldn't mind a Daughters of the Dragon roster which includes Misty, Colleen, Black Cat and Tarantula. Granted the Heroes for Hire run that used that roster was not very good but I think the characters could do well under better writers.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#61197: Aug 7th 2016 at 1:40:53 PM

There are a lot of Jewish actors in Hollywood but not so many canon Jewish characters. Spector could be a Mizrahi Jew, or of Egyptian/North African/Middle Eastern descent on one side of his family. I've seen people suggest Rami Malek as a name because he's young, popular, and ethnically Egyptian.

RBluefish Since: Nov, 2013
#61198: Aug 7th 2016 at 2:21:16 PM

I was literally just about to suggest Malek, as a matter of fact. However, if the character is indeed Jewish, then I could see casting a non-Jewish actor as not being such a hot idea.

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#61199: Aug 7th 2016 at 2:39:38 PM

What has this Rami Malek fella been in?

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RBluefish Since: Nov, 2013
#61200: Aug 7th 2016 at 2:41:35 PM

I've seen him in the excellent indie film Short Term 12, (which, ironically, starred Brie Larson!). He was also a character in Until Dawn. Those are the main things I know him from, but he's reasonably popular these days.

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