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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#60951: Jul 26th 2016 at 5:40:56 PM

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I believe it was said to be a geopolitical thriller. I hope they delve on the politics in a way that TWS didn't. Whereas the latter is more Three Days of the Condor, and dealt more with ideals, I'm hoping the former gets to go more ASOIAF. Ramonda forming alliances and playing The Mole, T'Challa pitting his enemies against each other, winning by playing of the rules of engagement to his favor, seeing and so on.

It'll be interesting to see how the movie characterizes him too, since the T'Challa of Priest's comics is old and weary with experience, whereas the one we see in Civil War at least is righteous, but also young and impulsive.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#60952: Jul 26th 2016 at 5:45:37 PM

I imagine him adjusting to the new responsibilities of running a country will be a big part of the plot.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#60953: Jul 26th 2016 at 5:46:15 PM

I know we've left the what can hurt Luke discussion, but I'm guessing little old Madame Gao and some of the higher members of the hand know techniques that'll make Luke's Steel hard skin seem more like paper.

She knocked Matt clean across the room when he should have seen it coming, and the hand made his senses useless through silencing their own heartbeats (Nobu did the same).

I once commented that Luke is a good weapon against them because nothing in their arsenal could really hurt him, but that's only in the early going. Expect them to be much more dangerous once they know what they are dealing with.

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AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#60954: Jul 26th 2016 at 5:47:35 PM

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Being new to the throne would be a good way to excuse an Exposition Dump if they justify it as him being fairly sheltered as a youth or having gone abroad for much of his schooling.

Unsung it's a living from a tenement of clay Since: Jun, 2016
it's a living
#60955: Jul 26th 2016 at 5:48:45 PM

[up][up] Love Madame Gao. Looking forward to finally finding out what her deal is.

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#60957: Jul 26th 2016 at 6:28:31 PM

Remember: Madame Gao doesn't work for the Hand. Nobu was the representative of the Hand; Madame Gao represented something else. Her drugs were all stamped with the symbol of the Steel Serpent, too. And she said that she knew every language.

Odds are, she is Crane Mother.

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#60959: Jul 26th 2016 at 6:35:22 PM

And then Marvel throws a curve ball and it turns out she's Fin Fang Foom.

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shatterstar Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: I wanna know about these strangers like me
#60960: Jul 26th 2016 at 6:36:31 PM

[up][up] This tweet is much better than the other one on Comic Con because it humanizes Larson much more. I agree with some of my female nerd friend that the tweet at Comic Con made her too... I don't know, "sexy".

Edit: [up] Are you talking about Madame Gao or Brie Larson? Because based on Aloha, only Emma Stone can lowered her standard enough to play a half-Asian woman.

edited 26th Jul '16 6:39:00 PM by shatterstar

Eagal Since: Apr, 2012
#60961: Jul 26th 2016 at 6:38:33 PM

Edit: Wow, I was way off. Fin Fang Foom is an alien, not magic. [lol]

edited 26th Jul '16 6:41:19 PM by Eagal

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#60963: Jul 26th 2016 at 7:00:40 PM

I really can't wait to see more of Madame Gao. She's a delight to watch.

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tommy1138 CT-1138 from Present conditions ≠ Japan Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
CT-1138
#60964: Jul 26th 2016 at 8:33:59 PM

Ghost Rider! Yay!grin

edited 26th Jul '16 8:34:08 PM by tommy1138

Yeah, so if I could just find happiness, that'd be great.
Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#60965: Jul 27th 2016 at 12:23:39 AM

I wonder what they actually mean with "classic" inhumans characters....there are still a number of Nuhumans they could use. There is a whole list of characters they could use without ever touching the royal family or Ms Marvel.

And honestly, there isn't really that much room for more Inhumans...they barely used the ones they already have so far.

hollygoolightly Since: Apr, 2012 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#60966: Jul 27th 2016 at 3:40:18 AM

I mainly think Nakia and Killmonger because they've worked together in the comics, whereas Klaus and Killmonger have every reason to want to kill each other on sight. I also strongly believe that no matter what they're going to be altering Killmonger's back story (since his usual one doesn't work well as a "first movie" antagonist, IMO).

Also, because it's suspicious that Lupita herself is the one informing us of the number of villains.

Makes sense. For me, I thought having two characters who have past personal beef with T'Challa/the royal family might be a bit too similar, but they could easily change that in Nakia's case to something a little more political. As long as it's not jealousy/jilted wannabe-lover.

I mostly thought Klaw because he is connected to Killmonger already, too, and because he would have a vested interest in de-stabilizing T'Challa's leadership to get at vibranium. In that case, in would be more of a deal-with-the-devil thing for Killmonger.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#60967: Jul 27th 2016 at 4:24:18 AM

Honestly, they can do whatever they want with the characters. The majority of the audience has no expectations whatsoever, so the only thing they have to do is to ensure that those characters work within the universe.

Btw, does anyone know if the "Move or you will be moved" lady is in the movie?

hollygoolightly Since: Apr, 2012 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#60968: Jul 27th 2016 at 5:19:22 AM

True, but they usually try to use at least some aspects from the comics, and I think especially the early Black Panther runs and the one by Christopher Priest in the late 1990s are quite beloved. But they've mostly found a good balance in picking and chosing comic elements for the movies so far.

I've heard MOYWBM lady has a part in Wonder Woman, but I don't know if the movies have scheduling conflicts.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#60969: Jul 27th 2016 at 5:40:20 AM

I doubt it, since Wonder Woman has wrapped up shooting, and Black Panther hasn't even started shooting yet...I think....

hollygoolightly Since: Apr, 2012 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#60970: Jul 27th 2016 at 7:56:01 AM

Black Panther starts shooting in January 2017, so she could easily be in it.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#60971: Jul 27th 2016 at 9:14:10 AM

Don't know much of the later runs other than T'Challa's marriage with Storm (bad), Wakanda refusing to share the cure for cancer from the rest of the world (very bad), the part where Wakanda gets invaded and a lot of the Priest supporting characters like Zuri get Stuffed in the Fridge (also bad), and T'Challa having a younger sister (could be good).

shatterstar Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: I wanna know about these strangers like me
#60972: Jul 27th 2016 at 9:28:01 AM

[up] Wow. Sound like a train wreck that also happens to include Suri in the mess.

edited 27th Jul '16 9:28:11 AM by shatterstar

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#60973: Jul 27th 2016 at 9:38:21 AM

To be honest there's probably a lot more to it than that. Those are just the most salient points I know, because Never Live It Down for the first three.

dantecito Since: Dec, 2014
#60974: Jul 27th 2016 at 9:54:58 AM

Is obvious that "classic" inhumans will be C-List Fodder.

Ekuran Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ

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