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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

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#60551: Jul 19th 2016 at 12:12:02 PM

I would have liked to see Spectacular Spider-Man do Agent Venom with the Flash they had.

Would have been a bit difficult though since the symbiote is pretty explicitly evil in that, as it is in most adaptations.

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#60552: Jul 19th 2016 at 12:14:57 PM

Woof! I do believe I have a case of the vapors.

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#60553: Jul 19th 2016 at 12:22:32 PM

I know, right.

Re Flash, I agree. While I know it isn't as optimal as Agent Venom in the comics, I could see the movies doing some version of it, depending on how many movies there are. So like have a semi-sympathetic Flash in the first movie and continue to develop him throughout the series. In the second or third movie have Brock!Venom, ending with Brock being depowered. In whatever movie Brock!Venom appears, have Flash get seriously injured saving someone. Then, in The Stinger, have someone from SHIELD visit Flash in the hospital and give him the symbiote,

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#60554: Jul 19th 2016 at 12:33:52 PM

Idle thought: I don't want the MCU Spider-Man movies to do Venom. <.<;; I fear that if they do a Venom movie, it will encourage Marvel's writers to take the symbiote away from Flash Thompson

http://comicbook.com/2016/07/14/venom-finds-a-new-host-as-part-of-marvel-now-/

They're planning on just that anyway.

Watchtower Since: Jul, 2010
#60555: Jul 19th 2016 at 12:42:24 PM

[up][up] That's sorta how I see it. Start with Brock, have it end with Spider-Man managing to rip the suit away from him, make some kind of stinger on it getting to Flash. Maybe a piece comes off and finds Kassidy. Maybe Brock at the end feels guilty as hell, leading to Anti-Venom, if they're willing to try that route.

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#60556: Jul 19th 2016 at 1:14:05 PM

Anti-Venom's a bit awkward, especially since it requires Mr. Negative and a lot of loose interpretation regarding his powerset. Marvel kinda murdered that entire plot point with a rusty carving knife during Spider-Island and has never looked back, opting to give him an actual symbiote, Toxin, since nobody who matters was using it. tongue

They also seem to be merrily ignoring the part where Toxin is the Chosen One of symbiotes, respected as a peer and equal by Spider-Man, and "more powerful than Venom and Carnage combined." Which is good, because that was really stupid. Basically, Toxin's entire story has been Broad Stroked at this point. It's just a symbiote that spawned from Carnage now.

edited 19th Jul '16 1:16:40 PM by TobiasDrake

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#60557: Jul 19th 2016 at 1:38:17 PM

Show of hands: am I the only one who wants to see Luke Cage with the yellow jacket and tiara of his Power Man days, if just as a short Mythology Gag?

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#60559: Jul 19th 2016 at 1:44:10 PM

If Jessica's Jewel costume can cameo so should that. Plus with Genndy Tartakovsky's upcoming comic having it too.

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#60560: Jul 19th 2016 at 2:13:03 PM

I'd be up for the jacket, but the tiara's just weird.

Maybe something he wore back in his younger years that he looks back upon with embarrassment.

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#60561: Jul 19th 2016 at 2:35:23 PM

Maybe he got really drunk one night...

Seriously though, there are a few ways they could cameo a piece of armor like that onto him. Even if it's not metal, they could even give him a silver headband at some point.

edited 19th Jul '16 2:36:09 PM by KnownUnknown

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#60562: Jul 19th 2016 at 3:28:04 PM

He doesn't need to go full-on Power Man, but a yellow shirt is a must and a chain belt would be nice.

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#60563: Jul 19th 2016 at 3:45:58 PM

Ehh, we might. Characters like Luke, Malcolm, and Detective Clemons may be the only reason we haven't seen belligerent retaliations like, "Jessica Jones asserts that ALL MEN ARE RAPISTS. Worst show ever! Burn it and send rape threats to the people who made it! #Not All Men" as usually happens any time people attempt to discuss the issue of rape.

You haven't been to some parts of the Internet.

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#60564: Jul 19th 2016 at 3:51:07 PM

Pretty sure KYM might use this show as an excuse to bash feminists. I know at least one person on there said that rape culture was bullshit or something.

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#60565: Jul 20th 2016 at 2:07:25 AM

I'll probably regret asking, but what's KYM?

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#60566: Jul 20th 2016 at 3:32:13 AM

I remember us talking here about how all the white men were either villainous or not important, I belive the concencus amongst our own white male population was "Oh yeah, I didn't even notice, I guess that's kinda cool, I mean it's not like I particularly care about having a heroic white man in every TV show I watch".

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#60567: Jul 20th 2016 at 3:51:06 AM

As a white guy, I concur.

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#60568: Jul 20th 2016 at 4:20:36 AM

So, we had Red for Daredevil and White for Kingpin, Light blue for Jessica and Purple for the Purple man, and we will get yellow for Luke Cage and green for Iron Fist. What do you think the colour for their respective villains will be?

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#60569: Jul 20th 2016 at 5:23:31 AM

Cottonmouth wears green so it will probably be green and yellow for Luke Cage. I'm not sure about Iron Fist. We don't even know the villain yet.

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#60570: Jul 20th 2016 at 5:31:58 AM

I have a hard time believing that it won't be Davos. Not only is he a big-time IF villain, but they've already teased him (in DD S1, Madame Goa's heroin has the mark of the Steel Serpent stamped on it). And given that many IF fans (and I freely admit to not knowing a ton about IF), believe that she is actually the Crane Mother, it makes all the more sense.

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#60571: Jul 20th 2016 at 5:45:39 AM

Davos is certainly the most obvious choice but it would necessitate a bit of careful writing. There's already been some... heated debate... about whether Danny should be Caucasian or Asian or mixed race, though they went with a white Danny in the end. The problem being, Danny and Davos's relationship/feud in the comics boils down to Always Someone Better - Danny being the better of the two.

And in the comics it works pretty well. However, if there's already heat about the (debatable) Mighty Whitey-ness of Danny, having him defeat an Asian character in a kung fu fight is really going to ramp it up. I'm not necessarily saying this is right, but if Davos is the baddie, it will happen, I am sure.

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#60572: Jul 20th 2016 at 5:49:37 AM

Just establish right off the bat that, though Danny is great, he isn't the best, and there are quite a few people with tons of different nationalities who are better than him.

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#60573: Jul 20th 2016 at 6:12:34 AM

Hopefully that's what Shang Chi will be for. It was announced he was going to be in Iron Fist, right? I don't remember, but his thing is "Master of Kung Fu" which would technically put him above Danny whose thing is simply "Good at Martial Arts, also has a chi fist"

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Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#60575: Jul 20th 2016 at 7:13:51 AM

If they go for green they have to ensure to pick another green than the one for Iron Fist...unless they decide to go gold for him....

I sill wonder if we might end up with a version of the Serpent society in Luke Cage....


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