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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
At one point in DBZ the Z Fighters were perfectly okay with the villain massacring the entire population because they could just wish them back to life with the Dragon Balls. That's on top of random cities getting blown up every single arc. In some ways I think it's worse than the MCU.
The power levels being thrown around in the DBZ fights are a lot larger so it's easier to have epic confrontations.
edited 14th Jul '16 2:41:22 PM by Kostya
Human Extinction Attack: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzF6GEEva-s
Death is so unfathomably cheap in Dragon Ball that sacrificing the entire human population just to stall for about a day really is a viable* and consequence-free decision. It's an entirely separate universe with entirely different rules so it's not really fair to hold it to the same standards as the MCU where people die when they are killed.
But yeah, I'm pretty sure the comparison was that DBZ has a LOT of fights in abandoned wastelands and manages fine. That's because it's not a story about superheroics and saving civilians, it's a story about martial arts and crazy techniques.
edited 14th Jul '16 3:02:19 PM by Anomalocaris20
You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!Tony Stark doesn't actually do a lot of "patrolling the slums beating up poor people and/or the mentally ill". That's way below his pay grade. His scope tends to be espionage within the military-industrial complex plus foreign dictators, warlords, and terrorists. He generally leaves punching up the slums to more disenfranchised heroes like Dare Devil or Spider-Man while turning his wealth and influence to a much more global scale.
YMMV on whether "Self-Appointed American World-Cop launches missiles at brown countries" is better or worse than "Rich, white guy beats up the poor, mentally ill, and other disenfranchised groups," but they are two very different concepts
This is true, though a large part of that comes from the fact that nearly all of DBZ's villains are weirdly cooperative about the matter. This conversation happens a lot.
- Hero: Do you mind if we spend the next six hours flying around searching for a better location to have this fight?
- Villain: Of course not, my good man. Let us be off immediately. We shall postpone all further violence until we find a locale more suitable to the impending unpleasantries.
Supervillains don't tend to go in for that. If Magneto is ripping up Manhattan, it's because he wants to rip up Manhattan. Politely asking him for a change of location to the Nevada desert is just going to get you struck in the face with a construction beam.
It is not a coincidence that most super-crimes are performed in a population center, and most super-criminals aren't that receptive to being asked to move.
edited 14th Jul '16 3:08:21 PM by TobiasDrake
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.I love how bizarrely receptive DBZ villains are to the suggestion.
Forever liveblogging the AvengersNot only DBZ villains, but anime villains in general. They have that honor thing going on, where the combatants always loudly declare their names and Power Level before a battle. It's supposed to invoke the samurai code if I recall it correctly.
edited 14th Jul '16 3:21:19 PM by Paradisesnake
Meanwhile all these asshole comic book villains taking people hostage.
Forever liveblogging the AvengersI wouldn't say that moving the battles away from the populated areas works too well for DBZ though. It just makes them feel very detached from the world of the story, like civilians don't exist at all.
I still remember the moment from the manga when the androids actually stopped some guy driving a car, and it felt super weird to me, because it was so rare to see civilians being attacked by the villains.
edited 14th Jul '16 3:31:46 PM by Paradisesnake
That is because with anime villian are fighter FIRST and villiand SECOND, if they can have a good brawl with hero them of course they are going to move, their villian happen outside of them fighting(freezer being galatic conqueror, Cell depopulate entries cities before he got all powerfull and Boo did random destruction for the sake of it)
Western hero(specially comic book one) treat fighting and stopin the evil plan as the same thing to various degrees. Ultron fight Thor while the rest try to stop his plan, same with Loki and Tony(kind off)
Now about colateral damage, so far there is two aproach: Marvel who show it but them move on and DCCU who so far seen to delight in destruction on the fight(granted so far it have TWO big fight between powerfull beings so is not surprising, maybe the new batman movie)
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Read Zach Snyder's answer on Batman's killing in Bv S. The guy seems to genuinely belief that it is the car that kill the people while Batman just merely crash the car into them and drag the criminals' car across the road.
Why weasel around like that? Batman started out killing people and using guns in the comics. Just say that it reflects that and presumably he becomes more recognizably modern Batman as a result of learning an alien's mom has the same name as bat-mom.
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No, they just try to pretend thing like Hulk rampage on south africa never happen because it would be bad for little Wanda
But moving away from that, I just saw the Punisher...and is weird, while the chararter have the backstory of the Punisher, the movie dosent try to be superhero(or anti-hero) movie or even a typical action film with super protagonist, Frank barely shoot, it take howard by using his paranoia, insecurity and somewhat shacky position in the underworld, he barely wins his fight against Harry and the Russian(which by the way is one of the more enjoyable fight, EVER!) and there isnt glorious stand out, he just storm the whole thing and nobody stop him.
Also I kind like how they make him more vulnerable, the way he interact with the girl and those two guys was quite nice.
Overall it was a good movie...but if it wasnt for the fact it have Punisher in it, you wont belive is comic book chararter.
edited 14th Jul '16 9:47:39 PM by unknowing
"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"Huh. I'm surprised that whether baby Groot is the old one except tiny or Groot Jr is even a question. I mean, I always wanted baby Groot to be Groot Junior, because it would give Groot Senior's sacrifice much more narrative weight, but everyone I talked to seemed 100% certain that it was the same Groot, except tiny. I like that it's up in the air.

EDIT: Sorry, wrong discussion.
edited 14th Jul '16 2:29:19 PM by SonOfSharknado
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