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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#60301: Jul 6th 2016 at 10:54:06 PM

Also how they handle Xavin's gender/sex, which as someone pointed out is closer to being agender than genderfluid (he's more sex-fluid, if that makes sense).

dRoy Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar from Most likely from my study Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just high on the world
Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar
#60302: Jul 6th 2016 at 11:28:29 PM

Random rambling.

I said this in this thread multiple times already, but GOD, I would love to see Deadpool in Marvel Cinematic Universe.

I would especially love to see him interacting with Black Widow. evil grin

Continuously reading, studying, and (hopefully) growing.
KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#60303: Jul 7th 2016 at 12:08:10 AM

@Angourie Rice's character: my out there theory is that she's playing Sally Avril. She starts out as a young student in Peter's school who idolizes Spider-Man. Then as the sequels go on we see her taking more and more extreme lengths to emulate him in what appears to be a Running Gag until, at some point, it possibly becomes not funny any more.

MousaThe14 Writer, Artist, Ignored from Northern Virginia Since: Jan, 2011 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
Writer, Artist, Ignored
#60304: Jul 7th 2016 at 5:31:04 AM

[up][up]I feel like once a trained killer with less opportunities to kill finds out an extremely annoying ally is functionally immortal, they will use them as a receptacle for all of their aggression.

I'm thinking frequent widow stings to the head, bullets to the crotch, The occasional opportunity to break his arms. Oh and Clint would feel the same, he might be tolerant of Mr. Pool at first but sometimes he gets that urge, like that scene with Quicksilver in Age of Ultron where he jokes he could just shoot him there and nobody would notice. Only he might actually shoot.

I'm more curious how Cap would be able to handle someone so wacky.

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comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#60305: Jul 7th 2016 at 7:35:52 AM

Klara is usually considered The Scrappy but I doubt we'd see her in the movie anyway. Her whole thing is she's from the past, so you'd have to put in time travel shenanigans just to justify her being there.

edited 7th Jul '16 7:36:05 AM by comicwriter

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#60306: Jul 7th 2016 at 7:47:30 AM

Weird to scrappy her when perfectly good Chase exists

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TobiasDrake (•̀⤙•́) (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
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#60307: Jul 7th 2016 at 7:52:08 AM

Don't get ahead of yourselves, guys. The movies give fewer shits about the tie-in comics than they do about the TV show. It is entirely likely that Nico's mom is just a neat Shout-Out that the tie-in writer thought would be cool.

Like how the Iron Man tie-in comics kept trying to build up the Ten Rings as Tony's archnemesis even though the movies basically stopped caring about them after the first film, only ever bringing the idea back for a Decoy Antagonist in Iron Man 3.

edited 7th Jul '16 7:54:50 AM by TobiasDrake

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comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#60308: Jul 7th 2016 at 7:58:16 AM

[up][up]Klara only appeared later in the story, which is when most people generally agree the quality started taking a nosedive, which I guess factors into why so many people hate her.

Like I said though it's moot because a movie would probably focus on the first few arcs anyway.

edited 7th Jul '16 7:59:04 AM by comicwriter

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#60309: Jul 7th 2016 at 9:09:26 AM

Like how the Iron Man tie-in comics kept trying to build up the Ten Rings as Tony's archnemesis even though the movies basically stopped caring about them after the first film, only ever bringing the idea back for a Decoy Antagonist in Iron Man 3.
To be fair, blah blah "All Hail the King" blah blah blah blah Real Mandarin blah blah blah.

...what? Everyone knows what I'm talking about.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#60310: Jul 7th 2016 at 9:44:11 AM

It depends on which comics you're discussing. A lot of the ones done after the films are usually irrelevant, but the prequel ones are often done with an eye towards what is happening in the film. I would not be surprised if those two were included because they have cameos or minor roles in the actual movie.

Watchtower Since: Jul, 2010
#60312: Jul 7th 2016 at 11:14:21 AM

[up] Good to have that cleared up. Would love to see Marvel tap into that at some point.

I feel like once a trained killer with less opportunities to kill finds out an extremely annoying ally is functionally immortal, they will use them as a receptacle for all of their aggression.

So basically all the funny parts from Edge of Tomorrow.

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#60313: Jul 7th 2016 at 11:46:12 AM

I have a question here: do you think wakanda would react to T´challa actions in Civil war? I mean he pretty much call a man hunt on Bucky head and enter with hero to punch another hero after all it happen, I can see a lot of people in wakanda feeling insecure about him and his erratic behivor.

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
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#60314: Jul 7th 2016 at 11:48:42 AM

Wakanda is a monarchy. T'Challa has the divine right to rule. What more need be said?

Kings don't really have approval ratings. Just the occasional peasant uprising.

edited 7th Jul '16 11:49:34 AM by TobiasDrake

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unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#60315: Jul 7th 2016 at 11:50:40 AM

[up]Both their kind die and their prince decide the best way to act is "MY FATHER IS DEAAAAAAAD!" a least someone in wakanda could see that as bad choice, dosent it?

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#60316: Jul 7th 2016 at 12:06:40 PM

If anything that'd probably make him more popular. How many presidents have personally led manhunts for terrorists or political assassins?

kkhohoho (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#60317: Jul 7th 2016 at 12:18:11 PM

[up]Yup, and there's probably a damn good reason for it.tongue

ultimatepheer Since: Mar, 2011
#60318: Jul 7th 2016 at 12:24:11 PM

Most political leaders can't hit Highway Speeds.

Falrinn Since: Dec, 2014
#60319: Jul 7th 2016 at 12:27:34 PM

My guess is that any internal conflict in Wakanda will be from ultratraditionalists who want to undo T'Chaka's push for integration with the world. So it will likely be the fact T'Challa intends to continue his father's policies that will be a matter of controversy, and anything he did as Black Panther in Civil War will be a minor point in all of this.

edited 7th Jul '16 12:27:49 PM by Falrinn

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#60320: Jul 7th 2016 at 12:40:57 PM

[up]Really? I mean, wakanda people die by wanda, them his king get blow up, is prince follow the wrong men in clearly ilegal way only to found out it was wrong target, I think many could consider T´challa....unresonable to deal with

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#60321: Jul 7th 2016 at 12:54:07 PM

What he did was illegal but like I said, I doubt anyone cares. He went after the guy (who everyone thought) assassinated their king. You're making more out of it than needs to be, I think.

higherbrainpattern Since: Apr, 2012
#60322: Jul 7th 2016 at 12:59:34 PM

Wakandans don't hate their king, dude. Especially one as badass and amazing as Black Panther.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#60323: Jul 7th 2016 at 1:12:10 PM

He kicks ass. What's not to love?

Hell, when somebody fucks with their country, T'challa doesn't just say he's gonna find the guy responsible, HE ACTUALLY GOES OUT AND TRIES TO FIND THE DUDE RESPONSIBLE. That's the kind of person you want leading you.

And as a final point, even if it wasn't the guy he thought it was, he was the one who actually caught the one responsible.

T'challa 1, everyone else, negative 15.

...Handsome Rob, Infinity.cool

Edit: Since I couldn't get my post to come out the way I wanted it, I had to change it. Fuck everything everywhere for all time and at all times.

edited 7th Jul '16 1:14:28 PM by HandsomeRob

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unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#60324: Jul 7th 2016 at 1:12:34 PM

[up][up][up]ehh black panther disregard all law and decide to go in solo mision for himself, even getting arrested after his father try to push for the acords(or something around that efect) he was reckless and as prince(now king) that not really good trait.

[up][up]I never said anything about hate and that it? "he is badass therefore everything is fine"?

edited 7th Jul '16 1:13:00 PM by unknowing

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AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#60325: Jul 7th 2016 at 1:16:54 PM

[up]x6

Probably. Or fanatical religious elements like the ones who murdered the Jabari/Jobari tribe under the decree of the king.

[up][up] Generally, but as Coates' run has shown that's not always the case.

edited 7th Jul '16 1:18:34 PM by AlleyOop


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