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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
I don't mind either way. I mean, he was remarkable memorable as a character, which I mostly put down to the charisma of the actor, and I certainly wouldn't have minded to have him around as a first minor villain who becomes more and more dangerous with time, but on the other hand blowing him up was practically blowing up the notion that Steve would die in this movie in a certain way. It was practically the writers saying "don't expect us to go that route".
Thus said, Infinity wars might reshape the whole MCU. So who knows, they might actually find a way to bring him back down the line.
Garcelle Beauvais & Tiffany Espensen have joined the Spider-Man: Homecoming cast.
edited 5th Jul '16 7:06:27 AM by Spinosegnosaurus77
Peace is the only battle worth waging.Yeah, and they were right. Coulson didn't survive that.
Gillo suggests that Crossbones may have survived because you didn't see a body, but was wearing a suicide vest that exploded. That doesn't really leave much of a body.
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.You say that like either show changed anything.
Neither The Hand nor the Kree corpse-serum are relevant to Crossbones's situation. One of those options doesn't even exist anymore. The only "precedent" they set is that a writer can, if he or she so decides, introduce a plot device for resurrecting the dead. Which has always been true and will always be true in fiction.
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.I don't know if there's an official reason, but I think it has a lot to do with Hank being primarily known for building Ultron and beating up his wife. Because of this rep, there wasn't a desire to have Hank as one of the Avengers and instead, the decision was made to have Scott as Ant-Man and bring in Hank in a different role that didn't have those "hang-ups".
As for Janet, Hope is somewhat like Janet (particularly the hair) and the actual Janet may be introduced in the future as she has one of those ambiguous comic book deaths that 100% mean you are alive.
Edit- And with building Ultron specifically, I think there was an element of somewhat avoiding the Omnidisciplinary Scientist trope. Pym's specialty is the Pym Particle shrinking technology and to some extent robotics- but robotics with a focus on insect behavior. Tony Stark's specialty is robotics, with emphasis on artificial intelligence. So, it makes more sense to give the latter the role of building Ultron than the former.
Of course, there's kind of a problem with Tony being an expert on everything, but at least he's an expert in things related to his general wheelhouse. It doesn't make much sense outside of a comic that the "ant-guy" managed to build a sapient omnicidal killer robot.
edited 5th Jul '16 11:54:19 AM by Hodor2
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Wasn't he specifically holding onto Jan as being dead?
I remember hearing that Whedon wanted to put Wasp in the first Avengers movie but either couldn't or decided against it.
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True, but he's not primarily known for that, whereas Pym...
At the same time though, I think it is worth noting that Spider-Man's current "never live it down" involves selling his marriage to the Devil, which probably plays some role in the MCU Peter being in high school.
I don't disagree with the idea that maybe Jan and Hank could have been introduced with the current generation, but I think Tony kind of stole Hank's role on the team. And I think as with the Fantastic Four, there's something "retro" about Hank and Jan that make them work better as precursor characters.
edited 5th Jul '16 11:59:20 AM by Hodor2
The reason why Hank and Jan weren't in the Avengers is actually rather simple. They were still going with Edgar Wright's movie at the time (he'd been pitching it since the early 2000's), which like the finished product, had Hank Pym as a retired old man who used to be Ant-Man decades ago. Unless the finale verged wildly from the finished product, I'd imagine the point about Hank being too old to continue as Ant-Man in the present would've still been there.
Whedon had wanted to put Jan in the movie (presumably meaning she wouldn't be Hank's wife in this universe) but found out that there was already too much shit going on in this movie to introduce Jan and give her an origin story. You can see in the finished product that he was having trouble balancing screentime for the 6 Avengers he already had (Hawkeye says Hi!), so a 7th member probably would've been pushing things.
So did Reed Richards. The difference is those are both way more popular characters than Hank Pym, so those incidents weren't the most notable things they ever did.
Heh.
edited 5th Jul '16 12:06:31 PM by comicwriter
That was the part I liked the least because it just feed into the complains of those who still haven't understood that Zemo would have simply adjusted his plan yet again.
Janet might become part of the Avengers. Since they went through great pains to point out that time works different wherever she is, she could emerge even younger than Hope.
There are two Hawkeyes. Two Spider-Mens. Two Captain Americas.
I'm sure the movies can handle two Wasps. But they probably won't.
edited 5th Jul '16 1:49:09 PM by Bocaj
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I didn't. He was basically just The Dragon to The Dragon in Winter Soldier. Being promoted to Starter Villain seems about right.