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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

MousaThe14 Writer, Artist, Ignored from Northern Virginia Since: Jan, 2011 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
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#60076: Jul 1st 2016 at 5:24:29 AM

Yeah, I've been assuming that we're getting all these announcements because they're mostly just students and teachers running around and we're getting this much publicity becuase presumably we are spending quite a bit more time in the school than previous movies which took us to the city quickly and tended to stay there longer.

Maybe Peter accrues a nerd posse and that's what all these people are for, like he's in a science club or something.

Hmmm, in that case perhaps Homecoming is alluding to the villain. Maybe they went to Peter's school and have come back to be a speaker or something, or an instructor, or a recruiter, scoping out the science team for potential "scholarship opportunities" (Aka ideas to steal from the next generation).

I just realized I accidentally just started turning Homecoming halfway Big Hero 6.

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TobiasDrake (•̀⤙•́) (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
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#60077: Jul 1st 2016 at 7:30:19 AM

I just realized I accidentally just started turning Homecoming halfway Big Hero 6.

  • Peter: Actually...I'm going to have to upgrade all of you.
  • Nerd posse exchanges looks. Cut to
  • SPIDERS. SPIDERS EVERYWHERE. IT IS F*CKING RAINING SPIDERS
  • Liz Allen: OH GOD WHY
  • Peter: Stop trying to run away from them, just let them bite you! Some of these have to be the power-giving kind!

edited 1st Jul '16 7:32:03 AM by TobiasDrake

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yellowturtle from Nowhere Important Since: Feb, 2015 Relationship Status: Coming soon to theaters
#60078: Jul 1st 2016 at 7:55:50 AM

[up][up]It also really shows that this movie has a diverse cast. Hopefully that can shut down most complaints that there's 'only one' black(latino) Spider-Man character.

edited 1st Jul '16 7:56:26 AM by yellowturtle

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comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#60079: Jul 1st 2016 at 8:09:34 AM

I don't think it had anything to do with complaints and more like that's what New York actually looks like. It's astonishing how many shows and movies get that wrong.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#60080: Jul 1st 2016 at 8:39:38 AM

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The real question is how many of them will be narratively important.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#60081: Jul 1st 2016 at 9:08:52 AM

I was gonna say Hannibal might be Robbie Robertson but then I realized nobody reads papers anymore.

shatterstar Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: I wanna know about these strangers like me
#60083: Jul 1st 2016 at 10:37:10 AM

[up] Damn it. Now I can't get the image of Doreen singing the Cup Song out of my head. [lol]

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#60084: Jul 1st 2016 at 11:07:16 AM

She'd make a good Squirrel Girl, actually.

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Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#60085: Jul 1st 2016 at 11:08:02 AM

Dan Slott wanted Selena Gomez as Squirrel Girl a while back, didn't he?

edited 1st Jul '16 11:08:17 AM by Tuckerscreator

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#60086: Jul 1st 2016 at 11:39:05 AM

Peter David has actually expressed the fact that Rachel Bloom would make a good Squirrel Girl. Which, I mean, would be awesome:

edited 2nd Jul '16 2:07:10 AM by alliterator

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#60087: Jul 1st 2016 at 11:45:50 AM

There's a lot of actresses that would make a good Squirrel Girl. It's not a very demanding role. Can she do peppy and chipper? Sold.

If I were casting the character, I'd give bonus points to any lady who can actually make squirrel noises rather than having to dub the chittering over her when she's talking to squirrels.

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VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#60088: Jul 1st 2016 at 12:02:29 PM

Seriously, it's not a demanding role.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#60089: Jul 1st 2016 at 10:44:45 PM

Well, there's also that tongue in cheek element that ought to be in the performance, kinda similar to Deadpool, but it doesn't necessarily change the role all that much.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#60090: Jul 2nd 2016 at 5:08:25 PM

So thanks to my bro, I got a theory about Yondu:

Now as some of you know, before the current incarnation of the Guardians that we've been seeing in the comics, there was a another version that existed many years in the 31st century (of which Vance ''Justice'' Astrovik was a member due to some weird immortality experiment). That version included the classic version of Yondu, who was something of a Noble Savage type.

After the success of the movie, where he was a Space Pirate in the current era, Yondu was reimagined in 616 in a manner similar to his movie version.

The point is the classic version of the Guardians don't exist in the movies...or do they?

Here's a thought: How did Yondu know about the orb? Where did he find out about it? What if he didn't just send Peter after it cause he thought it was worth some cash (though he probably did do that)? What if he knew exactly what he was dealing with the whole time. That's why he wanted it so badly.

I mean, it's pretty crazy that he was even willing to fight Ronan for it don't you think? Ronan is a big scary guy who is wiping out a civilization cause they looked at him funny. Who'd want to fight someone like that, especially when you're nothing more than a money grubbing thief. Sure, if you win, you'd have both a powerful weapon, and a huge source of cash on hand, but that's a big if, and you still gotta go through Ronan to get it, which the movie showed was no easy task if you aren't willing to challenge him to a dance off.tongue

But Yondu did it, cause he knew the orb was worth it. Maybe not for altruistic reasons, but his reasons were enough for him to go for it, and since Peter was so desperate to do the right thing, it gave him an excuse to commit to the quest.

Now, why do all this? Well, it's because despite not being from the future, there's still a previous version of the Guardians Of The Galaxy in this verse, and Yondu was apart of it, with Quill's dad (who we still no next to nothing about). So they were old buddies who fought together in the original Guardians, and maybe the people who previously controlled the power stone weren't the ones who sealed it, but actually Yondu and Quill's dad, along with the rest of the team. Afterwards, they parted ways, but then Quill's pops asks Yondu to pick up Peter, which he does, but then opts to keep him. He calls Quill's dad an asshole, but it's possible for them to still be friends (cause friends can still call each other assholes, or even be assholes to each other and still be friends).

The final point of this idea (and a part I realized as I was writing this): who called them the Guardians Of The Galaxy? Cause it Quill didn't do it until after he took the power of the Stone to kill Ronan. It was Ronan himself who came up with the name, and there no evidence he came up with it off the top of his head. Ronan was many things, but I'm not sure if he's clever enough to come up with something like that. He'd heard the name before, and name dropped it to mock them for falling short of the previous team, unaware that he would inspire the biological and adoptive son of two of it's previous members to take it up.

And that's that. Let that one percolate for a bit.

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alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#60091: Jul 2nd 2016 at 9:44:29 PM

I actually thought of something similar. And it seems like they may be using some of the original Guardians in the new film, too, so that could totally work.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#60093: Jul 4th 2016 at 11:04:31 AM

No way.

The bomb was exploding when Wanda sent him up. There's no way he survived that.

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windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#60094: Jul 4th 2016 at 11:13:19 AM

I'm sure people said the same thing about Coulson getting stabbed through the heart by Loki.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#60095: Jul 4th 2016 at 11:16:15 AM

wild mass guessThat was an LMD that exploded.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#60096: Jul 4th 2016 at 12:57:22 PM

Didn't he tweet a while back that he was putting away the Crossbones costume for good?

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#60097: Jul 4th 2016 at 1:03:00 PM

Sounds like trolling either way.

DrWillHatch63 Since: May, 2014
#60098: Jul 4th 2016 at 6:05:40 PM

I hated the way Crossbones died so casually like Baron Von Strucker in AOU.

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#60099: Jul 4th 2016 at 6:08:59 PM

Anti-climatically? His death kickstarted the damn movie!

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DrWillHatch63 Since: May, 2014
#60100: Jul 4th 2016 at 8:10:31 PM

Yeah, but Crossbones in Winter Soldier had all of these little scenes that set him up as being a guy who is going to be a big deal down the road, and then he ends up as a random Cold Open villain in Civil War. I thought he deserved better.


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