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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
What is it with Marvel and trying (and failing,) to make Cyclops the living reincarnation of Satan these days? Do they just not like Cyclops as a person? Do they have a hate-on for Cyclops because they grew up watching XTAS and thought he was an unlikable douche and are just trying to make their childhood impressions of Cyclops a reality? Are they just trying to turn him into some sort of scapegoat to make the X-Men look bad and prop up the Inhumans? Or maybe they just have a boner for Wolverine?
YOU MAKE THE CALL.
Also, only current Cyclops is a dead terrorist. Teen Cyclops is still alive and a hero, although with a lot of, you know, issues about his grown up self. So it's less like "Marvel hates Cyclops" and more like "Marvel thinks Cyclops is boring, so it's trying to find some way to make him interesting, i.e. turn him into a terrorist like Magneto and then, when that doesn't work, kill him off."
edited 26th Jun '16 6:56:22 PM by alliterator
When I read 'Marvel Zombies' last page, I immediately thought of Marvel Zombies.
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The heroes of yesterday are the tarnished shitheads of today. Professor Xavier was the first and Cyclops, as more or less Xavier's apprentice, was the second. They were both turned into horrible monsters for story convenience. Even X:TAS never did anything with Cyke except make him a stick-in-the-mud by-the-books cop which worked because it let us cheer for Wolverine, the loose cannon on the edge.
Although, when looking back at it, it's all rather fucked up.
I mean, I can picture myself doing the same thing in Wolverine's position but it is very unhealthy. Although there is blame to go around - why the hell would you make him your Best Man? Salt in the wound doesn't even begin to describe it.
And the great irony is of course that when Scott and Jean actually got married in the comics, Wolverine sent them a letter of congratulations. Dunno if the current writers remember this. Given that they can't even remember Rachel Grey exists or was the Phoenix, I doubt it.
But yeah, Cyke has done some shit over the years. No one will ever forgive or forget what he did to Maddie and I personally call bullshit on assigning X-23 to his murder squad. That's just wrong on so many levels. I mean, pragmatically it makes sense but pragmatically, a lot o fhorrible, evil choices make sense.
Apparently, "Not killing everyone on and destroying Sokovia when it was going to become a extinction-level asteroid" is also "Letting seven billion people die." Yeah, I'm not buying it either.
Especially because, from what I remember, he was going to let them destroy Sokovia, he was just going to stay on it and die with everyone there.
edited 27th Jun '16 1:33:03 AM by alliterator
Honestly, it was not really clear to me if what Cap did supposedly wrong was NOT blowing Sokovia out of the sky immediately or that he did intent to do it in order to rescue everyone else in the world, sacrificing himself in the process, but it doesn't really matter because Cap made the right decision, and it is completely in-character for him to do so. He is a soldier. He always tries to safe everyone, but he is also well aware that sometimes hard decisions have to be made. That's why he ordered Natasha to close the worm hole before Tony was back in The Avengers, and why he wanted to take down Shield once and for all instead of risking Hydra to be able to launch project insight.
"Especially because, from what I remember, he was going to let them destroy Sokovia, he was just going to stay on it and die with everyone there. "
No, the bad part was Cap bow to save everyone, Ultron tell is pointless because the city is already in sky, and them.....it show Cap cant save anyone because the damn city is in the SKY.....and that it, Steve is just there like idiot until papa nick come with helicarrier ex machina that without agent of shield will be the mother off all asspulls
Is pretty much tie with Natsha/Bruce in the barn or Shirtless Thor as worst scene in Ao U because Steven dosent really do anything to save people aside of pushing robot, wheadon just write iselt into a corner and use deus ex machina to save itself, it was pretty bad
"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
In short, that whole thing was pointless, Cap do nothing but punch robots and stay there when the obvious fact(he cant save anyone because is fucking city in the sky) is throw into his face, requiring deus ex machina to save him.
that it, is pretty mucht the movie petting Steve in the back for chosing the right thing and ignoring he coudnt do shit at all, it was just pointless
"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"![]()
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them it focus awfull lot on Steve since he said is going to save everyone, them stay there when it was clear he cant save eveyrone(even when Ultron already said it) and even there is pretty bad way to do it.
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So cap is idiot? good too know his behivor in Civil war was foreshow them
I blame the writing for forcing cap in situation he cant solve beyond punching robot, once he stop pushing he was useless, the story pretty much bend over him in that moment
Except he could have affected the situation. Yes it would have been awful for them to blow up that city but it would have been even worse if it impacted the Earth. The issue with that scene is Steve basically refuses to destroy the city but gives no other alternative and it is only by the plot convenience of SHIELD showing up (to say nothing of how the only way you'd know SHIELD is operational is if you'd watch Agents of SHIELD because the presence of that Helicarrier is never explained in the film).
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It does when a deus ex machina is only thing that can save you and yet the movie fail to notice this, he said is going to save people, Ultron said it dosent matter because the city is in the sky and.....Ultron was right, in the moment Steve stop puching something he just stay there until papa nick come to save him with good deus ex machina
edited 27th Jun '16 2:37:01 AM by unknowing
"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
