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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

TobiasDrake (•̀⤙•́) (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
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#59801: Jun 22nd 2016 at 8:49:33 AM

Funny how many James and Sams there are.

What's more funny is how bizarrely relevant that is this year. Civil War has two important characters named James and two Pro-Accords officials named Ross, the latter of which makes discussion of the Accords management confusing.

Meanwhile, Batman v. Superman's resolution revolves around the fact that both title characters have a mother named Martha.

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comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#59802: Jun 22nd 2016 at 9:13:33 AM

[up][up][up][up]speak for yourself. Deadpool was one of my favorite superhero movies in years.

As for surnames I just realized Falcon and Deadpool have the same surname.

edited 22nd Jun '16 9:14:50 AM by comicwriter

Prowler I'm here for our date, Rose! Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
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#59803: Jun 22nd 2016 at 9:14:38 AM

[up][up][up][up] Yeah, no, I really don't care to see that.

edited 22nd Jun '16 9:15:11 AM by Prowler

TobiasDrake (•̀⤙•́) (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
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#59804: Jun 22nd 2016 at 9:16:08 AM

Come to think of it, I'm surprised I haven't seen a mashup regarding the two major Superhero Versus movies both ignoring the One-Steve Limit yet.

  • Captain America: ...James....
  • Iron Man: Why did you say James?! WHY'D YOU SAY THAT NAME?!?!?!

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flameboy21th The would-be novelist from California Since: Jan, 2013 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
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#59805: Jun 22nd 2016 at 9:17:29 AM

WHAT DOES HALF YOUR YOUR COMMANDOS HAVE TO DO WITH IT?

edited 22nd Jun '16 9:17:51 AM by flameboy21th

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#59807: Jun 22nd 2016 at 9:31:04 AM

When I heard about the Martha moment, I was convinced that someone made it up.

It sounded too ludicrous to be a real plot point in a real movie that really came out.

Then again, that's what I said about everything my brother told me about the plot to Terminator Genisys

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MousaThe14 Writer, Artist, Ignored from Northern Virginia Since: Jan, 2011 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
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#59808: Jun 22nd 2016 at 10:11:53 AM

@Tobias, I saw a picture of that exact mashup somewhere months ago but I don't know how to find it now!

This isn't the version I was talking about buuuuuuuuuut same idea

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Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#59809: Jun 22nd 2016 at 10:43:25 AM

While I don't want the X-men in the MCU, I won't mind Marvel getting the rights back at all (if for no other reason that the whole rights thing is just a big headache). And if they get them back, I want them to do a "how would human history happen if the X-men had been around" stick, creating a Mutant universe which exists parallel to the MCU (for example, if there had been the X-men, it is unlikely that there would have ever been Super Soldier Serum experiments).

And in order to make the fans happy, they can do a Cross universe event next.

(I thought that the Martha moment or the jar of piss would be the most jaw dropping moment, but what really did me in was the overall editing).

edited 22nd Jun '16 10:44:52 AM by Swanpride

flameboy21th The would-be novelist from California Since: Jan, 2013 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
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#59811: Jun 22nd 2016 at 10:46:16 AM

[up][up]We can finally see two bald guys butt head in X-Men v. Avengers!

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shatterstar Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: I wanna know about these strangers like me
#59812: Jun 22nd 2016 at 10:50:03 AM

[up][up][up] That movie is the only one for me that the spoiler review made the movie even MORE idiotic.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#59813: Jun 22nd 2016 at 10:53:45 AM

For those curious, the tentacle monster from the Doctor Strange set definitely isn't Shuma-Gorath. It's just some generic toy called "The Portal Beast".

edited 22nd Jun '16 10:56:30 AM by comicwriter

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#59814: Jun 22nd 2016 at 11:23:55 AM

I think this is the James image you guys were talking about.

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#59815: Jun 22nd 2016 at 11:34:02 AM

What's really funny is that neither one of those characters actually go by the name "James." They are Rhodey and Bucky.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#59816: Jun 22nd 2016 at 11:40:10 AM

Kinda like how most of the Howling Commandos in the first film were named some form of James but none of them actually went by it either.

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#59817: Jun 22nd 2016 at 11:43:15 AM

That's EXACTLY the one I wanted, Alley, thank you.

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alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#59818: Jun 22nd 2016 at 11:51:30 AM

Kinda like how most of the Howling Commandos in the first film were named some form of James but none of them actually went by it either.
Ha, yeah, I forgot about that. There was James "Bucky" Buchanan Barnes, James Montgomery Falsworth (better known in the comics as "Union Jack"), and James "Jim" Morita.

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#59819: Jun 22nd 2016 at 12:07:05 PM

And Jacques Dernier aka the French form of James.

edited 22nd Jun '16 12:07:43 PM by Tuckerscreator

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#59820: Jun 22nd 2016 at 1:20:31 PM

"I thought that the Martha moment or the jar of piss would be the most jaw dropping moment, but what really did me in was the overall editing " Mostly because those two have sense in context(sort off), the editing was terrible yeah

Also isnt a shame we dont have a Bucky vs Rhode, for some reason the idea of "James, stop hitting James!" sound funny to me

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Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#59821: Jun 22nd 2016 at 1:43:22 PM

Oh, well, perhaps in Hishe.....

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#59822: Jun 22nd 2016 at 2:02:51 PM

If the movies go anything like the comics, the other characters might refer to Bucky with James since they're not on Nickname Basis with him. Though he's different enough that he might not care.

Rhodey seems like the formal type so they'll probably stick to calling him Rhodes instead. I imagine Carol will also probably be referred to as Cpt./Lt./whatever Danvers when they get around to her.

FoxBoxKid Philosophy Enthusiast from California Republic Since: Oct, 2013
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#59823: Jun 22nd 2016 at 6:06:54 PM

Speaking of Ms. Captain Marvel, she's an Air Force colonel in the comics, right? They could make her an actual captain and not adaptationally demote her by making her a Naval officer instead. Navies have planes too, right?

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Falrinn Since: Dec, 2014
#59824: Jun 22nd 2016 at 7:55:22 PM

[up] From what I understand she never really was a colonel in the Air Force, she was given that rank at the same time she transferred to NASA. So it wouldn't be much of an adaptational demotion, especially if she is still in the Air Force.

Overall though, I don't think it's necessary to establish a clear link between her superhero alias and her military rank, or to avoid an adaptional demotion if they do.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#59825: Jun 23rd 2016 at 12:55:36 AM

[up][up][up] Sam calls Bucky "Barnes" and I think the other Avengers who are not close to him will too. Once he is on first name basis with them, I think they will all go for Bucky, considering that Bucky himself insists that this is his name and not James.


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