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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Watchtower Since: Jul, 2010
#59751: Jun 21st 2016 at 1:48:53 PM

So there's three pawns at play. First you have the original "Night Nurse", the name of a short-lived medical drama from the 70s starring three nurses. Then you have Linda Carter, one of the "Night Nurse" protagonists who ultimately took the name for herself and became the secret hero doctor everyone today knows. Finally, you have Claire Temple, a doctor who serves as an occasional supporting character for Luke Cage.

It looks, to me, like Marvel allowed Claire Temple to be made the Night Nurse, on the grounds that they effectively fill the same niche, while attempting to preserve one of the few aspects that wouldn't work, namely the Night Nurse's romance with Dr. Strange. Except they seemed to have fucked up using the name "Christine Palmer" instead of "Linda Carter". Either that, the report's wrong, or, alternatively, they really don't want people to think she's related to Peggy/Sharon Carter at all.

edited 21st Jun '16 1:51:39 PM by Watchtower

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#59752: Jun 21st 2016 at 1:56:43 PM

Or they didn't want people to think of that OTHER Linda Carter.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#59755: Jun 21st 2016 at 5:54:25 PM

Watch everyone assume he's playing Miles Morales.

I'm calling Randy Robertson.

edited 21st Jun '16 10:16:48 PM by KnownUnknown

yellowturtle from Nowhere Important Since: Feb, 2015 Relationship Status: Coming soon to theaters
#59756: Jun 21st 2016 at 6:34:34 PM

I love this cast.

Crow: There's a plot?
MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
Destroyer of Worlds
#59757: Jun 21st 2016 at 6:38:57 PM

I'd be a little annoyed if he was playing Miles.

Can't we get a black Latino to play him?

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#59758: Jun 21st 2016 at 7:00:30 PM

It's probably just some other student. I doubt it's an issue.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#59759: Jun 21st 2016 at 7:11:42 PM

If Miles is to show up I expect him to be significantly younger than Peter Parker.

Lionheart0 Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: I'm just a hunk-a, hunk-a burnin' love
comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#59761: Jun 21st 2016 at 7:13:47 PM

That might one of the things that is updated. High schools aren't like they were in the 60's.

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#59762: Jun 21st 2016 at 7:21:02 PM

[up]It was already update it Amazing Spiderman, since the whole "nerdy guy being pick up by bully" Is getting a little bit abanadoned this days

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#59763: Jun 21st 2016 at 7:23:17 PM

There's still plenty of physical bullying that goes on in highschools, it's only the jock stereotype stuff that really doesn't occur.

edited 21st Jun '16 7:27:15 PM by VeryMelon

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#59764: Jun 21st 2016 at 7:26:02 PM

Either my high school existed in a time bubble, or I'm calling bullshit on bullying being any better than it used to be.

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#59765: Jun 21st 2016 at 7:26:51 PM

[up][up]Yeah, the how have change so far so Flash is something of a relic this days, usually now is group of bully instead of just one

edited 21st Jun '16 7:27:14 PM by unknowing

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
Watchtower Since: Jul, 2010
#59766: Jun 21st 2016 at 7:39:42 PM

From my vaguely-remembered high school experience, bullying is less physical but made up by the fact that every kid nowadays has a smartphone with access to Facebook, Twitter, Snapchat, Instagram, etc.

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#59767: Jun 21st 2016 at 8:05:04 PM

Maybe I was lucky but my high school didn't really have any of the cliche popular kids that would pick on the nerds. There were jocks, nerds, goths, and various other stereotypes but they were willing to be friends with people in other groups. Bullying also wasn't a huge problem from what I saw although there were definitely people that disliked each other.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#59768: Jun 21st 2016 at 8:08:12 PM

[up][up][up][up][up]It wasn't the bullying I was referring to, but more Peter Parker somehow having no friends. Even the absolute nerdiest kids I went to school with still had plenty of friends, even if it was just other awkward, shy nerds like themselves.

That's not even getting into how a lot of geek stuff is more or less mainstream anyway nowadays.

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#59769: Jun 21st 2016 at 8:12:09 PM

Yeah, the whole "football athele bully shy nerd" is kind of date,

also about Peter not having friend, didnt Norman and Gwen weren friend of him? I least in the spectacular spiderman eddie brook was friend of Peter

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#59770: Jun 21st 2016 at 11:50:21 PM

[up] In the original Spider-Man comics, Peter Parker didn't meet Gwen Stacy or Harry Osborn until he was an undergraduate at Empire State University (they actually appeared in the same issue).

The thing of it was, in the original comics, Peter was only in high school for the first 28 issues. Marvel was still using real time in their comics, so Peter had started as a sophomore and then graduated two years later as a senior and then went to college.

If they are only going by people who knew Peter in high school, that would be Liz Allen, Sally Avril, Flash Thompson, Seymour O'Reilly, and Charlie. If you include Untold Tales of Spider-Man, then add in Brian McKeever and Jason Ionello.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#59771: Jun 21st 2016 at 11:52:21 PM

They could composite the 616 high school cast with the Ultimate high school cast, like Spectacular did.

Though I think I'd like it if they adapted the super-early-days dynamic he had with Flash, Liz, etc. Like, the sense that he wants to be a normal teenager and aspires for immature things he can't have, but at the same time he's outgrown a lot of the ridiculous and selfish antics of his classmates and can't really connect to them.

edited 21st Jun '16 11:54:06 PM by KnownUnknown

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#59772: Jun 22nd 2016 at 12:24:07 AM

If they go with the Ultimate Spider-Man classmates, that would be Mary Jane Watson, Harry Osborn, Flash Thompson, Kenny "Kong" McFarland, Liz Allan, and Gwen Stacy. (Gwen appeared a bit later than the rest, but she was still a high school classmate. In fact, Ultimate Spider-Man never left high school in the entire run.)

Honestly, I would love it if they adapted some of Spider-Man Loves Mary Jane.

edited 22nd Jun '16 12:24:58 AM by alliterator

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#59773: Jun 22nd 2016 at 4:06:05 AM

There are currently jokes circulating over the web that the third night Nurse Linda Evans has the same name as the one who played Wonder Woman...this drives me nuts! Honestly, does nobody fact check anymore? The actress who played Wonder Woman was Lynda Carter (and yes, I wrote the first name correctly). Linda Evans is the actress from Dynasty. They are not even remotely the same person.

shatterstar Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: I wanna know about these strangers like me
#59774: Jun 22nd 2016 at 5:33:37 AM

Watching the comments from Movie Bob kind of make me realize that the world needs a good-to-decent Fantastic Four movie before Stan Lee dies. The man isn't going to live much longer and he deserves to have a good FF movie to make a cameo.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#59775: Jun 22nd 2016 at 7:05:34 AM

[up][up][up]The director said he was reading Mary Jane for research.


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