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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
I don't think many marvel heroes even have capes
Just Thor in the movies, right?
Forever liveblogging the AvengersIt was an original idea in March 2012, when James Vanderbilt hired him to direct it. This sometimes happens when multiple studios acquire the same script and start producing it, often without realizing that someone else is doing the same.
In this case, a spec scriptHey! was being passed around in March 2012 for a movie that was vaguely about a paramilitary attacking the White House.
Sony Pictures purchased the spec script and started production on White House Down and, at the same time, Millennium Films also purchased the spec script and started production on Olympus Has Fallen. The end result: two movies that are basically the same f*cking movie but with different casts and crews released at around the same time as each other.
It's a funny thing that sometimes happens in Hollywood. See also Deep Impact versus Armageddon.
EDIT: Of note, apparently Vanderbilt was the writer of the spec script, which means that if either film must be labelled the "legitimate" one, Emmerich's has the stronger claim.
edited 20th Jun '16 9:08:13 AM by TobiasDrake
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Thor and Vision. They never took Edna Mode's advice: NO CAPE!
edited 20th Jun '16 9:11:23 AM by shatterstar
Vision only did it because Thor did, though. Age of Ultron had him manifest the cape out of Cape Envy. It was hilarious.
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Thor and Vision, because he was inspired by Thor (one of the best ideas Whedon had, btw). And in Vision's case the NO CAPES! rule doesn't matter because his cape isn't real anyway and doesn't obey the laws of physics at all.
Scarlet witch normally has a cape, but for the movies they replaced it with a badass coat.
Re: Emmerich: While he certainly knows how to do an action spectacle, he would be a terrible fit the MCU, since he has no idea how to write a good character. The only reason independence day works in this regard is because his stock characters were still somehow fresh back then, and he brought something to the table by subverting tropes left and right (ie the standard white action hero being played by Will Smith, Judaism as the most present religion in it aso). But the MCU movies are ALL about the characters.
You can give Emmerich one of those Mutant action movies Fox sells as X-men. There he would be the perfect fit. He certainly would be able to stage a better apocalypse than Singer.
Re: Film Critic Hulk: Yes, an all caps text is really that hard to read for me. It makes it harder to see when sentences end and begin, for starters. For a text which already gets to the point in a very roundabout way, messing with the basic writing rules is the worst thing you can do.
edited 20th Jun '16 9:16:47 AM by Swanpride
If he did a MCU then the conflict would scale up and up and up, dwarfing the protagonists who must overcome it. He puts too much emphasis on everything but those we bought the damn ticket for. Largest scale of conflict is his number 1 priority, or should I really say the destruction caused by his antagonist and how everyone else counter attacks it. This is only okay for more impactful damage on the setting.
edited 20th Jun '16 9:27:57 AM by FictionWriterKing
In a Roland Emmerich movie, a lot of people bought the ticket for exactly the thing he puts his emphasis on: watching things explode, collapse, or otherwise be destroyed on an epic scale.
He's king of the Destruction Porn genre. There's a reason the original trailer for Independence Day barely even had any characters in it, but instead focused on the White House exploding. That's what he sells, and it's what put people in the theater.
edited 20th Jun '16 9:22:36 AM by TobiasDrake
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Still though. That's two characters out of lots.
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God, that movie was awful.
Yeah. He's got a lot of terrible movies under his belt because the problem with his movies is that they're really all the same movie. If you've seen Independence Day, you've seen every Emmerich movie ever made. There's only so many times "stuff explodes, landmarks are destroyed" can be done, and Emmerich did it best with that one.
For that reason, I wouldn't want to see him given creative control in a hypothetical Galactus-centric movie. Someone else would need to handle characters and shit. But it'd be neat to see the kind of destruction Emmerich's famous for.
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If this were a day where we were in the midst of arguing over whether Iron Man or Captain America was right, or a day where Doctor Strange had just come out, it probably would have been ignored.
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Though, if you want something new to discuss, how about "which genre should Marvel could cover next"? Other than the Black Widow Spy movie I will talk about until I get to see it, I would love it if the next Got G is in its core a Pirate movie! I love Pirate movie, and the best way to cover this genre is going into space! Plus, Quill is practically a pirate anyway! He and Yondu could be rivals on some sort of treasure hunt.....
Cyberpunk I said it before. Antman 2 = Scott shrinks into cyberspace.
Next is on Netflix or abc. A western with two kid gun or someone else
Whatever the help savage lands would be.
edited 20th Jun '16 9:34:59 AM by FictionWriterKing
Question for the thread: what directors would you not want to see ever handling an MCU film? Not just because they're bad, but because they have particular styles and quirks that wouldn't work?
For example, I would not want Emmerich anywhere near the MCU, partially because most of his films are shit, but mainly because of over-emphasis on "destruction porn", reliance on stock characters, and the "us vs. them" fervor that several of his films carry.
Yeah, letting the Hulk be personally responsible for Emmerich-scale destruction would pretty much put a kibosh on him ever being a protagonist again. >.> At that point, I don't think even Cap would argue with him being locked away somewhere for everyone's safety.
That's why I proposed someone like Galactus. Someone you're not supposed to like or sympathize with.
edited 20th Jun '16 10:03:14 AM by TobiasDrake
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Though the synopsis keeps the nature of the alliance ambiguous. So it could be more of an enemy mine situation then a true Heel–Face Turn
edited 20th Jun '16 8:56:06 AM by Falrinn