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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
I am not sure if there will even be one....I know it is a proud tradition to let heroes fight each other first when they meet each other, but Marvel has already done that multiple times, it is getting kind of old. I actually would prefer it to see the Guardians turn up and both groups constantly underestimating each other during the fight against Thanos.
It seems I was right in my vague assessment that GOTG were pretty weak in the films. I figured, being cosmic heroes, they should probably be at the top of the MCU power ladder. I mean, if you know the comics, you know Drax has on occasion been one of the strongest things Marvel superheroes have to offer. But when everyone listed the strongest beings in the MCU, not a single mention of any of these guys. They certainly were not peers of Thor or Hulk.
So it looks like they really, really re-imagined them. Which is fine. I am intrigued to see the movie a lot more now.
Also is there a thread for the "Foxverse?" I just want to hear thoughts on th eX-Men Trilogies. Like, how do First Class, Days of Future Past and Apocalypse stack up to X1, X2 and...uh, well, I hope they're better than X3.
There are a lot of comic films I need to catch up on.
The cinematic Guardians are much less powerful than the comic versions (except possibly full-grown Groot) but it works pretty well for them as the perpetual underdog no-hopers. If it did come to an Avengers vs. Guardians fight I could see the Avengers wiping the floor with the Guardians in a straight up brawl only to discover afterwards it was all a distraction for Quill to have snuck in and done what needed doing.
"These 'no-nonsense' solutions of yours just don't hold water in a complex world of jet-powered apes and time travel."At the least, Rocket is probably packing more advanced weaponry than Iron Man has.
That was a bit of a plot point when Iron Man was chilling with them in space.
Forever liveblogging the AvengersI feel like the GOTG tends to be on the Badass Normal side of the equation considering that Gamora, Drax & Rocket don't have any special power to their individual species outside of probably breathing in space in Gamora's case. This is perfect for their reimagining as hopeless misfits but I don't know how that would help defeating Thanos & the Infinity Gauntlet unless they have serious help from the Avengers or steal the Gauntlet themselves.
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What are you talking about. The Guardians have the greatest power of all times. Disco!
There wasn't really much you could do for an arc with Thor in a movie like AOU, a movie which was largely about setting up other installments. Pretty much everyone's arc was about either leaving the team or staying with it so that Marvel could set up the new status quo for Phase 3, and in Thor's case Whedon basically just had to get him from Point A to Point B to set up Thor: Ragnarok.
I guess you could have changed things up so that he has an arc that led to him quitting the team for personal reasons instead of leaving to find info on Thanos, but that'd largely just be rehashing Iron Man and Hawkeye's plots from the same movie.
edited 18th Jun '16 6:51:11 PM by comicwriter
She'd be Cap or Black Widow level I guess. Lot of skill and maybe peak strength for her race
Forever liveblogging the AvengersIt'd be like
Quill (Tricksy as a bag of Indies but strength of a reasonably buff human guy) < Rocket (has lots of guns. So many guns) < Gamora (one of the deadliest people in the galaxy allegedly. Trained as an assassin while Thanos watched from his laz-e-tyrant) =? Nebula (I think a fight between them could go either way depending) < Drax (dude is just ripped. Not exactly a brute but not a technician of the violent arts) < Groot (the tree is mighty. Won the superpower and voice actor lottery) << Ronan (shit) <<< Ronan with Power Stone (SHIT) ??? Thanos (but he'll have to do some stretches)
edited 18th Jun '16 7:35:37 PM by Bocaj
Forever liveblogging the AvengersHey wait a second. I thought it was confusing enough there are two Quicksilvers running around (heh) in films released roughly around the same time but I never stopped to consider something.
A poster elsewhere was confused about how, ya know, FUCKING ALIENS INVADING didn't have any lasting impact on the Earth and its population. I mean, that's a sensible grievance.
But somebody else pointed out "dudes with magic hammers also exist so who cares about aliens"
And then I remembered Quicksilver, which means mutants exist in the MCU now? Or is he just not a mutant now? And if he is still a mutant, where are the pitchforks and persecution and impending potential for genocide?
edited 18th Jun '16 9:55:37 PM by Nikkolas
I liked the fact that the Guardians were more or less everyday joes of the galaxy(Well, except for Gamora) and not superhuman outlaws or whatever. Not only did it make the movie stand on its own from the rest of the MCU, it gave it a bit of an Indiana Jones/Die Hard vibe to it, where you are constantly wondering "How in the FUCK are they going to get out of this?". That's what made the dance off scene so wonderful, because it was Peter using his wits instead of his muscles.
The general anti-Whedonness of the last few pages of this thread is rather upsetting despite some interesting criticisms. I still think that the first Avengers movie is a flat out masterpiece of the superhero movie genre. Nothing since its arrival has topped it, not even Winter Soldier, GOTG, or Civil War. He did lose points for AOU, but I'm legitimately shocked how fast we as fans turned on the man.

Yeah, their humour tends to be more on the witty side...but I think they have proven that they can handle different kinds of humour very well in Civil War.
I also love how their handle on situational humour...really, the Beetle scene is one of my favourite moments in the whole MCU.