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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
FictionWriterKing Since: Apr, 2016
#59327: Jun 16th 2016 at 1:35:03 PM

Adrian is interesting because he doesn't really want to fight superheroes. He would gather money for his retirement though that never means he won't back down from someone who challenges him. He has quit the ego, bitter and power hungry after a long repressed life others took for granted. Oh no Adrian doesn't let people like Spiderman degrade him or other villains use the alias Vulutre for their own glory.

He is a good choice, being stuck between the mundane and over top but neither passes both. Most of his crimes are to avenge himself from some wrong, or to steal money. He isn't a megalomaniac bent on killing people (Lubensky) left and right because of insert ridicules reason nor is he knocking over kid's ice cream stands.

Just avoid the narmy dialogue and we are good.

Overall, Vulture is the old guy society ignores and treats like trash until he snaps. Except he doesn't go around blowing up buildings; he recognizes when he goes too far and will stop.

edited 16th Jun '16 1:48:19 PM by FictionWriterKing

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#59328: Jun 16th 2016 at 1:36:02 PM

[up][up][up]I think in the original it was someone else who stole his inventions. Vulture actually predates Osborn, despite being far less popular.

edited 16th Jun '16 1:36:22 PM by comicwriter

Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#59329: Jun 16th 2016 at 1:38:55 PM

Hmm. Interesting. Did not know that.

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#59330: Jun 16th 2016 at 1:39:43 PM

I hope his wings are a similar model to Falcon's.

FictionWriterKing Since: Apr, 2016
#59331: Jun 16th 2016 at 1:45:14 PM

The rumor was he uses chairtia repuslars but fuck rumors

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#59332: Jun 16th 2016 at 1:48:37 PM

I want Toomes to have invented the wingsuit design that Falcon now wears, from either Tony, Howard, or Norman having stolen the idea and sold it to the military.

shatterstar Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: I wanna know about these strangers like me
#59333: Jun 16th 2016 at 1:51:11 PM

Watching the casting for Homecoming, I keep wondering if they're going to cast one of Peter's LI Mary Jane / Gwen Stacy or another LI.

edited 16th Jun '16 1:51:19 PM by shatterstar

FictionWriterKing Since: Apr, 2016
#59334: Jun 16th 2016 at 1:53:00 PM

He built the EXO-7 Falcon only for insert person to take ownership of them after announcing his leave.

edited 16th Jun '16 1:53:25 PM by FictionWriterKing

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#59335: Jun 16th 2016 at 1:53:08 PM

I thought they said early on that there wouldn't be a love interest in the movie because they wanted to focus on literally anything other than Peter's love life.

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AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#59336: Jun 16th 2016 at 1:55:01 PM

[up][up],[up][up][up]

Could be a mix of the two. He invented the Falcon wings but now he wants to build a superior version using his knowledge of the original wings to combine them with augmented Chitauri tech, reverse-engineered courtesy of the Tinkerer.

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#59337: Jun 16th 2016 at 1:56:26 PM

I want what I just said to be true, and for Spider-man to ignorantly call him out for copying Falcon, making Toomes furious.

shatterstar Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: I wanna know about these strangers like me
#59338: Jun 16th 2016 at 1:57:12 PM

[up][up][up] If they want to keep that option opens, I think the LI should atleast makes a cameo appearance to avoid the accusation of her coming out of nowhere.

edited 16th Jun '16 1:57:23 PM by shatterstar

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#59339: Jun 16th 2016 at 2:05:24 PM

Ooh, Martin Starr. I would love it if Starr was playing a reporter from the Daily Bugle. Or even JJJ himself.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#59340: Jun 16th 2016 at 2:08:16 PM

I don't care! I just hope that they play it right this time around, introducing important characters early on and building them up in the background.

I also hope that they have realized that not every villain needs to have a personal connection to spider-man. The whole point of Spider-man is that he will act if he sees a problem, the main struggle should not between him and the villain, but between him having to balance being Spider-man with his normal life.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#59341: Jun 16th 2016 at 2:08:44 PM

The rumor was he uses chairtia repuslars but fuck rumors

That's not a bad idea, actually. The problem is it came from a very fake sounding "plot summary" that turned up on a message board, which I'm pretty sure was since debunked.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#59342: Jun 16th 2016 at 2:16:20 PM

I just now realized Martin Starr was in The Incredible Hulk.

Punisher286 Since: Jan, 2016
#59343: Jun 16th 2016 at 2:17:03 PM

As long as they don't waste Michael Keaton on yet another throwaway Marvel villain (looking at you Mickey Rourke, Rebecca Hall, Guy Pearce, Sam Rockwell, Chris Eccleston, Corey Stoll, etc), then I don't really care if Vulture has a personal connection to Peter or not. As long as he's a fun and interesting villain regardless.

shatterstar Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: I wanna know about these strangers like me
#59344: Jun 16th 2016 at 2:19:13 PM

[up] I feel like if they can't find a way to make a villain relatable, at least make him/her over the top so we can at least be entertained.

[down] Please. Ronan got out-hammed by Chris Pratt and the Collector.

edited 16th Jun '16 2:20:32 PM by shatterstar

AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#59345: Jun 16th 2016 at 2:19:38 PM

Like Ronan.

[up]

Collector was hammy? I just thought he was trying to be as camp as possible. Ronan was shouting enough to tear a damn solar system apart with those vocal chords.

edited 16th Jun '16 2:27:12 PM by AdricDePsycho

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Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#59346: Jun 16th 2016 at 2:34:06 PM

Ronan is still one of favs. He is so entertaining to watch in all his hammyness, while still being a villain which comes off as nearly impossible to beat.

FictionWriterKing Since: Apr, 2016
#59347: Jun 16th 2016 at 3:11:19 PM

" I feel like if they can't find a way to make a villain relatable"

where have you been in the past decade lol. 90% of supervillians in mainstream comics are far from relatable. thats like asking for Frieza to be down to earth lol. almost all times they're going to go bat shit insane more than anything else. your typical Marvel/DC comic isnt treating the supervillain as amazing as the title hero. well it is but through their insanity; how crazy and tough they get and how much trouble they offer is all that pretty much matters. otherwise symbolism and lore make up the lack of everything else. we are lucky if they have a personality worth noting. now for the few who do thats where Marvel Studios must pick from (Loki) or just fill it (Justin Hammer)

edited 16th Jun '16 3:22:20 PM by FictionWriterKing

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#59348: Jun 16th 2016 at 3:15:36 PM

Frieza's an entitled 1%-er.

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#59349: Jun 16th 2016 at 3:17:11 PM

Fun fact: Freeza was based on Japanese real estate speculators.

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higherbrainpattern Since: Apr, 2012
#59350: Jun 16th 2016 at 3:18:13 PM

Batman/Birdman playing Vulture, huh?

I like this news very much.


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