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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#59301: Jun 15th 2016 at 8:10:41 AM

@alliterator Hobie never became Spider-Man. He just impersonated him for a while.
In Earth-616, Hobie pretends to be Spider-Man whenever Peter Parker needs his "bodyguard" to appear, but in one of the Earths where Peter was killed by Morlun, Hobie took over as Spider-Man (although everyone called him "Spider Hero").

I've been thinking about it and I kind of want Donald Glover to play Hobie Brown as one of Peter's teachers, a former thief called the Prowler, who provides a kind of counter balance to Tony Stark as a mentor to Spider-Man. And then, nonchalantly, he could mention that he has a nephew that Peter reminds him of.

edited 15th Jun '16 8:11:12 AM by alliterator

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#59302: Jun 15th 2016 at 8:12:35 PM

The important question is will he be in Infinity War so the Russos can get in another Community cameo?

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#59304: Jun 15th 2016 at 10:17:08 PM

[up][up] If not his character, then I hope they pull a Kenneth Choi and have him play another more Thanos-adjacent role just for it.

FictionWriterKing Since: Apr, 2016
#59306: Jun 16th 2016 at 8:43:55 AM

The danger of anonymous sources speaking off the record. My guess is the source told the reporter that they were casting Barbieri as a best friend to Parker. The reporter asked if he was Harry Osborne and the source said no, he is more like Ganke. Ganke was probably a reference point for Spidey’s best friend character, which the reporter misinterpreted. Or someone made it up. Lesson don't jump to conclusions based on nothing o_O

edited 16th Jun '16 8:57:08 AM by FictionWriterKing

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#59307: Jun 16th 2016 at 9:57:19 AM

The Ragnarok director on where Thor would stand in Civil War.

"We’ve talked a little bit about this. Personally, I feel Thor would have started his own team. He wouldn’t have liked the idea of those teams. But, even though Thor is from outer space and he lives in a palace, part of me likes to think he would side with Cap. I would side with Cap purely because I don’t trust billionaires."

Punisher286 Since: Jan, 2016
#59308: Jun 16th 2016 at 10:03:41 AM

I don't think that Thor would side with either of them personally.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#59309: Jun 16th 2016 at 10:12:45 AM

Thor would be too busy to remind everyone, that he is a foreign dignitary who can simply go on their own planet if his help isn't wanted anymore...and that technically, the Earth is part of the jurisdiction of Asgard.

Punisher286 Since: Jan, 2016
#59310: Jun 16th 2016 at 10:14:52 AM

I could also see him not being above pulling the whole "just try and stop me" card.

windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#59311: Jun 16th 2016 at 10:24:25 AM

[up][up]Technically nothing. Most people on Earth don't even know about Earth being under Asgard protection. It's Thor taking a personal shine to it nothing more.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#59312: Jun 16th 2016 at 10:41:54 AM

[up] Nope, Earth belongs to the nine realms and apparently the Asgardians consider this corner of the universe as "theirs", though for some reason they have decided at one point to stop interfering at Earth - I guess mostly because humans aren't a threat. They are practically our protection from other alien races (even if a LOT managed to sneak through the defences over the centuries). Thor is now giving Earth a more personal protection, but there is also the bigger picture to consider.

edited 16th Jun '16 10:42:36 AM by Swanpride

windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#59313: Jun 16th 2016 at 10:43:08 AM

That doesn't mean Earth belongs to them especially as Earth has other means of protection.

TobiasDrake (•̀⤙•́) (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
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#59314: Jun 16th 2016 at 10:46:05 AM

Where was Asgard when Chitauri were raining from the sky? When Ultron was going to Colony Drop the planet into extinction? Hell, they only suddenly began to care about the Tesseract after it had been in human possession for decades because Loki became involved.

Thor involves himself plenty but Asgard as a whole? The only reason Odin did whatever offscreen shenanigans he did to get Thor to Earth in the first Avengers was to bring Loki home. There hasn't been an Asgardian cavalry riding in to save the Earth since Odin drove out the Jotuns.

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Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#59315: Jun 16th 2016 at 11:46:54 AM

On that link posted recently about possible rules for Donald Glover, most of them seem like good suggestions. I think personally I'd most seem him as Prowler or else a Younger and Hipper Tinker along the lines of how the Spectacular cartoon used him, Quentin Beck, and to a lesser extent Donald Menken- a Punch-Clock Villain who is a Sarcastic Devotee to their boss.

Because of Glover's geekiness, I really see him as a Gadgeteer Genius character, whether a good guy or bad guy.

Alternatively, while not going to happen, I'd kind of like to see Overdrive (probably combined with Rocket Racer and Big Wheel). He'd fit the Ascended Fanboy personality and it would be cool to see that power illustrated with special effects.

jakobitis Doctor of Doctorates from Somewhere, somewhen Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
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#59316: Jun 16th 2016 at 11:52:26 AM

[up][up] Odin does seem to have washed his hands of the whole 'protecting humanity' deal - implied in the first Thor to be his general tiredness with war I seem to remember. He might be drawn to fight for his own people if necessary - but mortals? Nope.

Thor is younger, more idealistic and hasn't actually been in a long drawn out war yet, plus has romantic interest in one of the humans, so he's more willing to get involved.

My personal theory as to his stance on the accords would be that he would see himself as beyond human laws but not willing to interpose on them. And if Stark and/or Cap got uppity, he'd call a time out via the medium of magic hammer.

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#59317: Jun 16th 2016 at 11:57:46 AM

In fairness, without the bifrost it was hard enough to send just Thor in Avengers.

But otherwise yeah. Odin doesn't really give a poop about Midgard. Not his problem.

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Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#59319: Jun 16th 2016 at 1:11:03 PM

When the Chitauri turned up the bifrost wasn't repaired yet. And when Ultron wrecked havoc, Loki sat on Odin's throne.

And let's be honest here, we have no protection whatsoever from other groups in the universe who have mastered space flight. We have barely made it to the moon.

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#59320: Jun 16th 2016 at 1:12:09 PM

[up][up]If he is then we might risk the problem of too many villains without enough focus.

[up]Too bad no one has tried to do anything about that.

edited 16th Jun '16 1:13:50 PM by Cross

TobiasDrake (•̀⤙•́) (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
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#59321: Jun 16th 2016 at 1:13:08 PM

Our protection is that we don't mean shit to the rest of the universe. There's probably plenty of populated worlds that haven't mastered spaceflight yet.

That's pretty much exactly what Thor was getting at when he was ripping into Fury over experimenting with the Tesseract: messing around with something of such immense power and galactic importance paints a great big target on a planet that is absolutely not ready to deal with the intergalactic fallout.

Odin apparently thought the Earth would be a safe place for the thing because it's basically Bumf*ck, Nowhere on the galaxy's map. And he was right until humans starting playing around with it and revealed its presence to the rest of the universe.

edited 16th Jun '16 1:14:34 PM by TobiasDrake

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#59323: Jun 16th 2016 at 1:25:26 PM

Vulture is in a Spider-man movie! Played by Michael Keaton! I'm so happy!

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#59324: Jun 16th 2016 at 1:29:38 PM

It's possible he's just there as hired muscle, and if he's Kraven it's merely an Early-Bird Cameo. They seem aware that the lack of focus on the plots was what screwed Spider-Man 2 over.

Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#59325: Jun 16th 2016 at 1:29:42 PM

Hmm, Starr actually looks like Menken and on a related note, there must be a casting of Norman Osborn coming, right? Because he ripped of Toombes' inventions in I think the original and every adaptation where both appear. Although, I suppose Tony Stark could take on that role.

edited 16th Jun '16 1:30:57 PM by Hodor2


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