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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

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#59226: Jun 12th 2016 at 9:55:33 PM

JLA/Avengers with LEGO game humor would probably be a marvel to behold and definitely cool.

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#59229: Jun 12th 2016 at 10:01:50 PM

No regrets.

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#59230: Jun 12th 2016 at 10:02:16 PM

Boo-urns!

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#59231: Jun 12th 2016 at 10:02:47 PM

Would you say it's enough to distinguish itself from the rest of the competition?

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#59232: Jun 13th 2016 at 12:58:35 AM

So...a Scarlet TV show...yay or nay?

I guess this one won't be part of the MCU? It would be weird to have a revolution the other heroes just ignore....

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#59233: Jun 13th 2016 at 1:22:37 AM

From what i can tell despite the name it's a totally separate original franchise that has nothing to do with Black Widow or Scarlet Witch.

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#59234: Jun 13th 2016 at 7:40:39 AM

It's an adaptation of Scarlet by Brian Michael Bendis, a series he writes for Icon Comics. Icon is Marvel's answer to Dark Horse; it's a branch for creator-owned series such as Kick Ass that exist wholly independent of the Marvel Universe.

It has nothing to do with the MCU, Marvel characters, or superheroes in general. It's about a red-haired woman who rebels against an oppressive government and kickstarts a new American Revolution.

edited 13th Jun '16 7:41:50 AM by TobiasDrake

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#59235: Jun 13th 2016 at 8:31:57 AM

Sounds like wish fulfillment.

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alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#59236: Jun 13th 2016 at 8:40:41 AM

It's an adaptation of Scarlet by Brian Michael Bendis, a series he writes for Icon Comics. Icon is Marvel's answer to Dark Horse
You mean Vertigo, not Dark Horse - Vertigo is the creator-owned branch of DC, while Dark Horse is its own independent publisher.

Sounds like wish fulfillment.
Most comics sound like wish fulfillment when you boil them down into a single sentence

edited 13th Jun '16 8:41:12 AM by alliterator

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#59237: Jun 13th 2016 at 8:45:46 AM

Nah, I mean in general. Contemporary American-made fiction seems to have a real boner for revolution and fighting against tyranny and whatnot.

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#59238: Jun 13th 2016 at 8:52:46 AM

You mean Vertigo, not Dark Horse - Vertigo is the creator-owned branch of DC, while Dark Horse is its own independent publisher.

No, I mean Dark Horse. Dark Horse is the big go-to creator-owned company, whereas Vertigo and Icon are basically DC and Marvel's attempts at imitating them.

In Icon's case, it's mostly used for pet projects by major Marvel writers such as Bendis or Millar.

edited 13th Jun '16 8:53:51 AM by TobiasDrake

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#59239: Jun 13th 2016 at 9:06:09 AM

No, I mean Dark Horse. Dark Horse is the big go-to creator-owned company, whereas Vertigo and Icon are basically DC and Marvel's attempts at imitating them.
...I've never heard of Dark Horse as the "big go-to creator-owned company." That's pretty much Image. Dark Horse is the publisher who does all the Hellboy and BPRD stuff and yes, a bunch of other creator owned stuff, but Image does far more nowadays.

Nah, I mean in general. Contemporary American-made fiction seems to have a real boner for revolution and fighting against tyranny and whatnot.
...you do realize that's how America got started, right?

edited 13th Jun '16 9:07:33 AM by alliterator

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#59240: Jun 13th 2016 at 9:09:23 AM

And then the revolutionaries became the establishment. It's neat.

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#59241: Jun 13th 2016 at 9:30:05 AM

Hence we have a hard on for 'fighting tyranny' and revolutions.

Especially when it protects oversea economic interests.

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#59242: Jun 13th 2016 at 9:39:51 AM

Let see: colonies fighting the british, the south fighting for their "Freedom"(or the north fighting to free others) showing in both WW, civil right moment, their fight against comunist and now terrorism.....

Yeah, for the states, revolution seen to be their biggest turn on ever

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#59243: Jun 13th 2016 at 9:40:45 AM

Possibly one reason Hamilton got so popular.

Never before has revolution had such a catchy soundtrack, probably.

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alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#59244: Jun 13th 2016 at 9:41:19 AM

Man, this is all reminding me of Night Watch: "Don't put your trust in revolutions. They always come around again. That's why they're called revolutions."

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#59245: Jun 13th 2016 at 9:41:57 AM

[up][up] Goddamn it, now I want Lin-Manuel Miranda wrote the soundtrack for Civil War. Can you imagine how epic that would sound?

edited 13th Jun '16 9:42:05 AM by shatterstar

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#59246: Jun 13th 2016 at 9:43:49 AM

And guns. Don't forget guns. Guns are the tools with which Americans throw revolutions.

Culturally, America is absolutely in love with the idea of individuals with guns doing some wicked awesome gun-violence to protect freedom and liberty from the sinister plots and agendas of power-hungry institutions.

Consequentially, America is a country absolutely plagued by individuals with guns using gun-violence to make a stand against whatever they think is the problem with this country or the world. Chinese monks protest the eradication of their way of life by setting themselves on fire in public displays. Americans protest the Sinister Feminazi Agenda by shooting up schools.

Every crazy asshole with a gun sees himself as the next George Washington, and we have an absolutely unsettling number of people eagerly lying in wait for the Second American Revolution, all but begging the government to light the match so they'll be justified in rising up.

edited 13th Jun '16 9:45:49 AM by TobiasDrake

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#59247: Jun 13th 2016 at 9:56:54 AM

I'd argue that America's obsession with The Revolution Will Not Be Vilified is a relatively new thing. These types of stories were less common in the past-or at least, it was a lot more common to portray the government as ethical.

Many people with all sorts of political ideologies believe that the US is on the brink of becoming some kind of dystopia and that a revolution will be necessary.

edited 13th Jun '16 9:59:19 AM by Protagonist506

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alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#59248: Jun 13th 2016 at 10:11:33 AM

These types of stories were less common in the past-or at least, it was a lot more common to portray the government as ethical.
Nope, it's been like this for a good long while. Look up Shays' Rebellion. And then there was the Civil War. And the attempted coup during FDR's presidency. And so on.

edited 13th Jun '16 10:14:23 AM by alliterator

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#59249: Jun 13th 2016 at 10:15:24 AM

I was thinking about it more as a recent thing. I mean, compare the commie-bashin', America fuck yeah movies of the 80s with how popular stuff like the Hunger Games is nowadays.

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#59250: Jun 13th 2016 at 10:20:37 AM

It ebs and flows based o nthe situation. I've heard it both ways because both things are true, it just depeds on which era of the timeline you're focusing on.

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