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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#58776: Jun 7th 2016 at 12:52:49 PM

Oh sure, you list all the relationships except the only one that matters: Fitz Simmons.

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FictionWriterKing Since: Apr, 2016
#58777: Jun 7th 2016 at 12:52:49 PM

Of course he's sensitive about the Hulk -___-

FITZ SIMMONS WOOOOOOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO i feel like this will turn into Harry Potter and 10 years from now they will be old with children running SWORD

edited 7th Jun '16 12:56:43 PM by FictionWriterKing

flameboy21th The would-be novelist from California Since: Jan, 2013 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
The would-be novelist
#58778: Jun 7th 2016 at 12:52:58 PM

Norton Hulk exists? I thought the Hulk debuted in the Avengers.

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Paradisesnake Since: Mar, 2012
#58779: Jun 7th 2016 at 1:03:27 PM

I mean there was also this Eric Bana guy... grin

edited 7th Jun '16 1:03:38 PM by Paradisesnake

AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#58780: Jun 7th 2016 at 1:04:50 PM

In all honesty, I'd actually like a civil discussion about the 2008 Hulk. We barely talk about it anyways, so it'd be a nice change of pace from all this back and forth over Civil War.

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thatindiantroper Since: Feb, 2015
#58781: Jun 7th 2016 at 1:09:12 PM

It was highly middling in quality and no one really cares about it, least of all Marvel so nothing in it's ever getting followed up.

There discussion over.

Now, Captain America, merely deluded or psychotically overconfident ?

PhiSat Planeswalker from Everywhere and Nowhere Since: Jan, 2011
Planeswalker
#58782: Jun 7th 2016 at 1:11:08 PM

I liked 2008 Hulk. I think I like Woobie protags.

Yes, it could have been better, but it wasn't by any means godawful.

Also, someone really needs to call Roth out on making the Hulk. You can't be a major part of demanding accords meant to limit heroes' power when you're indirectly responsible for creating the hero that causes the most infrastructure damage.

edited 7th Jun '16 1:12:54 PM by PhiSat

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Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#58783: Jun 7th 2016 at 1:11:50 PM

Boring monster movie...the only interesting question is if The Abomination is imprisoned in the raft, too...

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#58784: Jun 7th 2016 at 1:14:13 PM

I liked it as well. Where was Abomination being kept before?

TobiasDrake (•̀⤙•́) (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
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#58785: Jun 7th 2016 at 1:15:10 PM

Now, Captain America, merely deluded or psychotically overconfident ?

Bad, but not half as bad as SPIDER-MAN. THREAT OR MENACE?!

Also, someone really needs to call Roth out on making the Hulk. You can't be a major part of demanding accords meant to limit heroes' power when you're indirectly responsible for creating the hero that causes the most infrastructure damage.

  • Ross: I've literally spent my entire career trying to rein him in. What have you done lately?

edited 7th Jun '16 1:16:01 PM by TobiasDrake

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AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#58786: Jun 7th 2016 at 1:19:06 PM

By rein him in, he apparently means "trying to capture him to create my own Hulk soldiers". Hell, he didn't even tell Banner what the project was supposed to be for (creating his own Super Soldiers).

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PhiSat Planeswalker from Everywhere and Nowhere Since: Jan, 2011
Planeswalker
#58787: Jun 7th 2016 at 1:21:17 PM

[up][up]Pardon me. I was distracted.

But yeah, Incredible Hulk made it pretty clear he was just pretending he had the public's safety in mind, really he just wanted Banner's blood to power more super soldier research. And yeah, Ross didn't tell him what the serum was for, Banner thought he was making a cure-all-diseases serum.

edited 7th Jun '16 1:21:58 PM by PhiSat

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TobiasDrake (•̀⤙•́) (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
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#58788: Jun 7th 2016 at 1:22:31 PM

Yes. That's the magic of PR; reality is flexible. Something as simple as choice of phrasing can mean the difference between whether

  • Captain America compromised national security by leaking confidential secrets to America's enemies.
  • Captain America blew the whistle on a terrorist organization buried in the heart of homeland security.

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thatindiantroper Since: Feb, 2015
windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#58790: Jun 7th 2016 at 1:30:44 PM

I'd really like to see the fallout on Steve leaking such secrets. That couldn't have been good for undercover agents.

hollygoolightly Since: Apr, 2012 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#58791: Jun 7th 2016 at 1:33:52 PM

[up]Probably slightly better than getting stabbed in the back by your handler because he's HYDRA, though.

Re: Bruce faceplanting in Nat's boobs, that happened during the party aftermath/Ultron's attack in Age of Ultron. It's like something out of a 1970s movie. Very slapstick.

edited 7th Jun '16 1:37:30 PM by hollygoolightly

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#58792: Jun 7th 2016 at 1:45:46 PM

Wait, fitz simmons a actual relationship? because so far they have just pure unrelated misery, everytime they try to be something, shit just happen at them is just depressing a this point

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higherbrainpattern Since: Apr, 2012
#58793: Jun 7th 2016 at 1:50:22 PM

Uh, yeah, dude, they're actually in a relationship now. They've been dating since the second half of Season 3.

@windleopard: Bruce planting his face in Nat's boobs happens during the party in Age of Ultron. It happens when Ultron attacks and Bruce and Natasha duck behind the bar to prevent being attacked by the Iron Drones, and Bruce's face just happens to land on Natasha's boobs, but yeah. It's terrible.

edited 7th Jun '16 1:54:41 PM by higherbrainpattern

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#58794: Jun 7th 2016 at 2:01:32 PM

[up]relationship in a good way or more awkard "we like you but the universe keep throwing shit at us" kind of thing?

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Discar Since: Jun, 2009
#58795: Jun 7th 2016 at 2:01:58 PM

I'd really like to see the fallout on Steve leaking such secrets. That couldn't have been good for undercover agents.

We saw a bit of that in Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.. Unfortunately we didn't get to see the reaction of people who were actually currently undercover at the moment of the leak, but good chunks of it were still encrypted, so hopefully that gave undercover agents time to get away without arousing suspicion. Mostly, the show focused on the organization itself. The general reaction was "Well, shit, this sucks. I guess it had to be done, but damn, what do we do now?"

No one blamed Cap for leaking anything. Everyone was much more focused on their friends and coworkers suddenly shouting "Hail HYDRA!" and shooting at them.

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AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#58798: Jun 7th 2016 at 2:37:32 PM

We're definitely going to see some new stuff for poor old Thor.
Heh.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#58799: Jun 7th 2016 at 2:38:49 PM

So if they are taking parts of Planet Hulk for Ragnarok, do you think we'll see Smart Hulk in this?

I mean, him being able to converse normally has become an important part of his character, and has been a phase of his life in most forms of media and the comics.

At this point, only the movies have avoided it so far.

Plus Hulk speaking proper sentences during at some climatic moment would be a huge Wham Line.

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MedusaStone Since: Jan, 2015
#58800: Jun 7th 2016 at 2:57:12 PM

Speaking of Ross and his Hulk...issues, I thought of something the other day. He spent years chasing Hulk/Banner. He declared Banner's human rights nonexistent and had him tortured under the guise of 'research' for the purpose of of not just containing the Hulk, but replicating, controlling, and utilizing him in battle. And failed at every step. I can't help but think that watching the Avengers use Hulk in battle with minimal issues and even getting him to change back pretty much on command must've caused a big ugly pit of anger and resentment in him.

To say nothing of his likely problems with the Avengers themselves. Leaving out any questions of legality or accountability, he probably viewed them as a gang of costumed thugs; more freaks he couldn't do anything about. He was probably overjoyed at the chance to get them under his thumb via the Sokovia Accords.


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