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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
If the rights revert back to Marvel, I would prefer them keep X-men into their own universe because I feel like they work better that way to avoid bringing up too many Fridge Logic like with Supergirl and the Flash TV show. Some crossover can occur with dimensional travel shenanigan, of course.
edited 4th Jun '16 1:30:44 PM by shatterstar
The FOX X-Men universe itself is already pretty damn convoluted, can't imagine Marvel trying to work it wholesale into the MCU without everyone losing their minds.
And I still don't understand why it'd be so hard to have mutants in the MCU. They're already treating the Inhumans/Gifted basically the same way.
Because the X-men comics tend to portray the Avengers and especially SHIELD very unsympathetic because apparently there is no good authority figure that is not Professor X in the X-men comics.
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And then there's the fact that the threat that every single X-men books face tend to be skewed heavily on the sci-fi apocalyptic side of things as oppose to the "smaller" threat and tone of the MCU so far.
edited 4th Jun '16 1:48:06 PM by shatterstar
The issue is that Inhumans are a secret society that kept themselves hidden from humanity. Mutants have been around and out in the open for decades. It would contradict stuff like the pre-Avengers movies which make it clear that superheroes and powered people are a new concept for society.
There's also that. The bigotry the Mutants face doesn't make sense given the way the other heroes of the world are treated.
edited 4th Jun '16 1:44:58 PM by Kostya
They got away with that in comics because of Early-Installment Weirdness, and because comics are printed much faster than movies are made.
The medium doesn't really support that kind of carefree attitude, due to of how long it takes to make the movies (thus leading to a lower output in comparison) and the fact that you only have so much time in each movie (thus limiting how much progress you can make in-universe). There's also the fact that such an attitude goes completely against the slow and meticulous process that the MCU has benefited from so far.
edited 4th Jun '16 4:12:36 PM by Watchtower
I didn't mean 'early days of comics' I meant the whole Secret Wars 2015 thing (disclaimer: I haven't read it because I'm too poor to buy individual issues of anything, and none of the trade paperbacks are in at my library yet). Or what the CW's probably doing with Supergirl next season. But yeah, I get your point.
edited 4th Jun '16 4:34:15 PM by Pseudopartition
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The MCU as a whole is trying very hard to remain consistent with its continuity and avoid retcon as whole. That's why I support the X-men being their own universe but is done with in house Marvel style and creative team because they're the ones that understood the characters best and won't try to shove Wolverine down our throat (much, he is still their most bankable character after all).
Having just come back from seeing Apocalypse I actually enjoyed it more than DOFP despite its various problems. And I'm of the belief that the XU and MCU stay apart except for Intercontinuity Crossovers.
I prefer the X-men in their own little universe. I am not happy with what Fox does with them, but I also think that we get the best scenario we can get. I know that a lot of comic book fans would love to see everything crossing over, but I always felt that a crossover needs to be a good fit to work. Otherwise they belong into the realm of fanfiction.
Thus said, what I would love is that in the far, far future, when the MCU has come to some sort of conclusion, the rights revert back and Marvel focusses on the X-men for a while and tell what would have happened if Mutants had existed. Just think about it, if we assume the first mutants became "public" sometimes during WW 1, and "normal" humans had decided that superpowered people are too much of a threat, they would have never created a Supersoldier program. Not just our history can be influenced by X-men, the fictional universe of the MCU could, too, if the focus is no longer on creating superpowers, but containing them. And in this scenario, a crossover in which the X-men world encounters the Avengers verse in some sort of interdimensional travel would actually be very interesting....
X men verse is too fucked up to be in the MCU. Fox waisted several characters who could have greatly contributed and impacted plot lines/chacaters' lives in the MCU if it were to happen. Secondly, its own continuity is too convoluted to be placed in anywhere else.
Now F4 yes use universal travel.
edited 5th Jun '16 3:59:02 AM by FictionWriterKing

The X-men make no sense in the continuity the MCU has established. I think it's too late to add them at this point. The Inhumans are a decent enough substitute.