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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
So if they do go for a Masters of Evil type scenario for Infinity War Part I, they've got the possibility of using Moonstone too, then. May as well toss in whatever villains might wind up in Ant-Man and The Wasp, Black Panther, and Doctor Strange too, come to think of it. Maybe they'll use Whirlwind? He's a recurring Ant-Man enemy, if I recall correctly.
Have you any dreams you'd like to sell?Whirlwind is the closest thing the Wasp has to an archenemy iirc, so I really hope he does appear in Ant-Man and The Wasp.
I think the possibility of Strange's enemies being on the Masters depends on whether they're folding Strange himself into the Avengers. He and his Rogues Gallery are not particularly tied with them in the comics and imo they all work best that way, but I wouldn't be surprised if Marvel Studios went "he's in the movies, he's an Avenger" for convenience's sake.
edited 2nd Jun '16 10:05:38 PM by KnownUnknown
Hulk or characters connected to him have been off and on members of the Avengers since the team was founded, though, and even when he's not on the team his characters and problems are more connected with the rest of the Marvel Universe. Strange's mythos tends to be almost completely separate from the rest of the universe with rare exceptions, though he does cross over at times.
It's like what the films are currently doing with the Guardians of the Galaxy.
edited 2nd Jun '16 10:14:44 PM by KnownUnknown
I thought Hulk was a founding member, left, and then didn't come back until that Avengers vs. X-Men thing?
Either way, you have a point about Strange. Eh, maybe they'll just have Klaw, Moonstone, and Whirlwind show up in Infinity War Part I with Zemo, Abomination, and Hammer. Seriously, I really want them to make Hammer actually be a good villain like in the comics.
Have you any dreams you'd like to sell?She-Hulk has been a member at times, though.
They could totally save the Hammer name and make a good Masters of Evil mythology gag by introducing Justine Hammer instead. I'm still surprised AOS hasn't brought in her or Zeke Stane, given the whole "hip young agents in a superhero universe" premise.
edited 2nd Jun '16 10:18:07 PM by KnownUnknown
It'd all depend on motivation. Zemo pretty much got all he wanted in Civil War, so he'd need something to coerce him into taking part in the Masters of Evil. I can't see the MCU Zemo as being their founder.
Come to think of it, if they do use Justin or Justine Hammer, I can see it being like that line of dialogue in Age of Ultron about who runs the Avengers. Tony funds everything but Steve technically leads it. Using Hammer as Tony's counterpart and Zemo as Steve's counterpart, that might work.
Have you any dreams you'd like to sell?That doesn't really rule out a daughter
Sperm doesn't wait for a marriage certificate, y'know?
Forever liveblogging the AvengersAlright then, suppose Hammer has an ex-wife, and suppose they had a child together (or hell suppose he had a child out of wedlock). Why would that child want vengeance on the Avengers? Would that child be old enough to be a legal adult?
edited 2nd Jun '16 10:34:47 PM by AdricDePsycho
Have you any dreams you'd like to sell?Though on the other hand MCU Klaue doesn't seem the kind of guy to invent something extravagant and flashy, let alone use it over far more practical bullets
Imo, I would prefer if MCU Klaw just gets killed off in his first scene. I'm sorry, but I found that cuttlefish scene in Ao U stupid.
Ok, who let Light Yagami in here?@Known Unkown Are you talking about the ex-wife gag? Cause I thought it was just that, a gag.

Yeah, but Carol's real arch-enemy (Mystique) can't be used.