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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#58251: Jun 2nd 2016 at 6:57:36 PM

I mean, I have to applaud this thread for being so civil when we disagree about a lot of different things to do with the movies (hell, I always love the debates on Age of Ultron because I love seeing all the different opinions on it, even if they're ones I might not agree with), but sometimes it can get in the way when me or someone else want to discuss something different, ya know?

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Yeah, the Civil War debate is getting annoying for me too. Iron Man 3 on the other hand varies for me. Like, I loved the little discussion about if Maya Hansen were the villain, and I like Tobias Drake's analysis of Killian.

edited 2nd Jun '16 6:59:13 PM by AdricDePsycho

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Falrinn Since: Dec, 2014
#58252: Jun 2nd 2016 at 7:01:54 PM

[up]x4

Looking at her IMDB page, she's been getting reasonably steady work. Not a whole lot I recognize or have seen, but she's definitely still in the business.

I don't really have strong opinions on who should play Janet van Dyme and given the character's rather ambiguous state we don't know what the story is going to demand for the role. However if Michael Douglas is cool with it, then I would definitely be cool with it as well.

edited 2nd Jun '16 7:02:26 PM by Falrinn

AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#58253: Jun 2nd 2016 at 7:03:01 PM

I mean, it makes complete sense for Douglas to be cool with it, she's his wife. I just hope people don't get angry and accuse it of cronyism or something.

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Falrinn Since: Dec, 2014
#58254: Jun 2nd 2016 at 7:11:21 PM

[up] I did not know they were married....

....Now would be a good time to mention that 95%+ of what I say about actors and actresses on this forum are things I looked up on IMDB 30 seconds before posting (for instance on the last page I had no idea how old Evangeline Lilly was when I started typing my big post). It's not really a topic I pay much attention to when I'm not actively discussing it. tongue

edited 2nd Jun '16 7:11:34 PM by Falrinn

AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#58255: Jun 2nd 2016 at 7:14:31 PM

Eh, fair enough.

Also, I'm watching Age of Ultron right now (seriously, why do Starz and FX rerun these movies so much?), and god damn, is the Vision still the best part of the movie.

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SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Love is Love is Love
#58257: Jun 2nd 2016 at 7:30:30 PM

Time to see if Colin Firth can fit into a green Speedo.

My various fanfics.
Watchtower Since: Jul, 2010
#58258: Jun 2nd 2016 at 7:39:18 PM

[up][up] It's about goddamn time.

We can always use a little Imperius Rex.

AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#58259: Jun 2nd 2016 at 7:44:03 PM

I'm now reminded of this photo I saw of a bunch of people pointing weapons at Namor while he's standing there going "You don't understand, I was only trying to get a bagel! Imperius Rex!"

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AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#58260: Jun 2nd 2016 at 7:53:54 PM

Remember hearing something about that a few months ago. Good to know it's been confirmed.
*waves Zach Quinto flag*

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#58261: Jun 2nd 2016 at 8:07:38 PM

Sounds like Marvel does own the rights to Namor.
Ooh, now we can properly do the Invaders! Yes! Bring in the old Human Torch and Namor and Captain America!

shatterstar Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: I wanna know about these strangers like me
#58262: Jun 2nd 2016 at 8:32:32 PM

[up]x 6. Yes. Made a Namor Dark Comedy film to compete with Aquaman.

edited 2nd Jun '16 8:32:44 PM by shatterstar

LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#58263: Jun 2nd 2016 at 8:35:52 PM

The only thing I know about Namor is that he's a speedo-wearing Aquaman who isn't as badass, more of a jerk, sleeps with anything that breathes, and is prone to throwing tantrums like it's going out of style.

Is that accurate or is there more to him?

edited 2nd Jun '16 8:38:14 PM by LordVatek

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RBluefish Since: Nov, 2013
#58264: Jun 2nd 2016 at 8:36:51 PM

Now the question is, who can pull off that speedo without looking like an idiot?

I'm seeing some people suggest Daniel Dae Kim. And yes, #AANamor is already a thing.

edited 2nd Jun '16 8:37:15 PM by RBluefish

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SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Love is Love is Love
#58265: Jun 2nd 2016 at 8:39:40 PM

I'd say Namor is just as badass as Aquaman, considering he goes toe-to-toe with The Hulk on multiple occasions, although he's dropped the speedo.

He can also fly.

He's also apparently the first Mutant?

My various fanfics.
Watchtower Since: Jul, 2010
#58266: Jun 2nd 2016 at 8:42:34 PM

Part of the praise given to Jason Momoa's casting as Aquaman is how sensible it feels to have a Hawaiian dominate the seas. Marvel, if cognizant enough, could easily ape that.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#58267: Jun 2nd 2016 at 9:09:31 PM

I haven't read that many comics centered around him but he's fun, silly design and all. His extreme arrogance makes him pretty entertaining.

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I was actually thinking that if they racebent Namor Asian would make sense, considering how huge the Pacific is and how his appearance can be interpreted as stereotypically east Asian for better or for worse (when he doesn't look like Spock). Although since it's called Atlantis it would probably make more sense for him to be someone of Mediterranean origin. maybe Persian, Italian, or Greek.

edited 2nd Jun '16 9:14:55 PM by AlleyOop

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#58268: Jun 2nd 2016 at 9:15:20 PM

"Replace "casting controversy" with "pointless pissing contests over the quality of Batman v. Superman", and you know how I feel about the DC movie thread."

Well, we can go back to debate if Clark REALLY save people in men of steel, that debate always cheer people uptongue

" god damn, is the Vision still the best part of the movie."

Yeah, the movie tend to feel VERY fast for some but when vision is there it slow down and take a breath, his conversation with Ultron is pretty damn good and pretty much the best part of the movie

"Part of the praise given to Jason Momoa's casting as Aquaman is how sensible it feels to have a Hawaiian dominate the seas. Marvel, if cognizant enough, could easily ape that. "

in my case I could never take Arthut blone,blue eyes seriously not matter what they try, this just feel.....right

" since it's called Atlantis it would probably make more sense for him to be someone of Mediterranean origin. maybe Persian, Italian, or Greek."

greek will be good, that would be intersting

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RavenWilder Since: Apr, 2009
#58269: Jun 2nd 2016 at 9:25:27 PM

Part of the praise given to Jason Momoa's casting as Aquaman is how sensible it feels to have a Hawaiian dominate the seas.

And that reaction has always confused me. That seems like it's playing up stereotypes rather than working against them.

AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#58270: Jun 2nd 2016 at 9:27:47 PM

That discussion might be best for the DC Universe thread.

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AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#58271: Jun 2nd 2016 at 9:28:54 PM

Not really. Only in the sense that Pacific Islanders would be the most likely to form island kingdoms, but I'm not seeing any negative oversimplifications associated with them, like cannibalism, shrunken heads, tikis, or leis showing up in Aquaman.

KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#58272: Jun 2nd 2016 at 9:31:39 PM

I think I'd be down for anyone playing Namor, really The ocean is very big, after all.

In any case, I have another topic to offer - who should be the villain for Captain Marvel?

Moonstone would be good if we are indeed going in the Masters of Evil/Thunderbolts direction, although I'm wondering if that might veer into what some might say is the MCU's overreliance on the Evil Counterpart. It'd probably help if you cast an actress with a different hair color.

Oh God! Natural light!
AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#58273: Jun 2nd 2016 at 9:36:50 PM

I know very little about Moonstone, how is she an evil counterpart to Captain Marvel?

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alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#58274: Jun 2nd 2016 at 9:45:14 PM

She got her powers from a piece of Kree technology as well (in this case, a Kree gravity stone, which allows her to fly, become intangible, and shoot lasers), but she turned into a villain instead of a superhero. And when she was a member of the Dark Avengers, she posed as Ms Marvel, too.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#58275: Jun 2nd 2016 at 9:47:18 PM

Though the two never became enemies until the whole Dark Avengers thing.

As far as I know, before that, they'd never crossed paths.

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