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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
IIRC, 27 is the average age for a Captain, while 45 is the average age for Colonel.
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.I'm not happy with the age either. Captain Marvel in the MCU would have been one of the rare opotunuties to have an older female protagonist in a mainstream genre film. Robert Downey Jr is 51 so don't tell me people over fourty can't be super heroes, it just seems like its women over forty who can't.
Captain Marvel had every reason to be over fourty.
edited 2nd Jun '16 11:26:04 AM by Whowho
I wouldn't have nearly as big an issue with it (although mid-30's is my preferred age range for an actress playing Carol honestly) if they wouldn't then constantly prove the double-standard by casting actors in their 40's or even 50's (or at least late 30's) to play their male heroes. Brie is younger than Liz Olsen is for goodness sake, and SW is the "rookie kid" on the Avengers in the MCU. If a slightly older actress cannot get a shot with THIS role, then I doubt that they will get many opportunities in the future sadly.
Casting Chadwick Boseman, who's already pushing 40, to play BP really drives this point home imo. Also Jeremy Renner, RDJ, Benedict Cumberbatch, Don Cheadle, Paul Rudd, Dave Bautista, Paul Bettany, Mark Ruffalo, etc.
edited 2nd Jun '16 11:30:06 AM by Punisher286
Same. I understand a younger Marvel would enhance her longevity but we already have some fairly old actors as the lead males. Iron Man, Ant-Man, Ruffalo Hulk, and Black Panther have all debuted in their 40s-50s, while Star Lord, Cap, Thor, all started in their 30s or close to it and looked their ages. Not sure why they can't do the same for the lead of Captain Marvel.
That. Hollywood hates middle-aged women. Even when they're willing to cast them, they're reluctant to actually age the character to match. Unless she's a villain, then it's okay.
Where men are encouraged to be mature, women are encouraged to be youthful.
edited 2nd Jun '16 11:34:18 AM by TobiasDrake
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.In the grand scheme of things, it won't matter much because unfortunately, Captain Marvel is not a well known character yet. That doesn't make it okay, but the people who are well versed in her history are not gonna be the bulk of the audience.
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edited 2nd Jun '16 11:45:02 AM by comicwriter
I freaking hope that the MCU lasts another twenty years so we could get a freaking age appropriate cornal female lead.
Of course Hollywood would probably just insist on taking focus off of Carol once her actress hits late thirties.
She is INDESTRUCTABLE SUPER STRONG AND CAN FLY she has no need to be the age of an Olympian!
she better be! Even then that's youth washing. Which superhero films are terribly terrible at.
edited 2nd Jun '16 11:37:54 AM by Whowho
RDJ was cast ten years ago, and back then nobody could have expected the MCU to be that long ongoing. Cumberbatch is in his 30s, and they needed an actor who is old enough to pull off the white in Doctor Strange's hair. Ruffallo is pushing it, but he plays a character who is CGI whenever he is in action. The only double standard I see is Bosman...I didn't knew he was that old. He certainly doesn't look that way.
Bree Larson is a little bit younger than I would have liked, but she is also incredible talented. Like I said, she wouldn't be my first choice, but neither would she be my last. The only thing which worries me that Marvel by going more and more after Oscar nominees and winners, stops doing what they have done best, finding the perfect fit in an unexpected place.
No but given who's reporting it, I think that the chances of her getting it are pretty good. And it does speak to what type of actress Marvel is likely looking for in-general.
And when you have so many actors in the MCU who were in the late 30's or 40's or even 50's in a couple of cases when they STARTED playing these parts, and they just cast a guy who's already pushing 40 to play BP recently, yet the female Avengers are played by women in their 20's, or JUST out of their 20's (Johansson is in her early 30's not, but in her 20's when she first got cast), then the double-standard is really freaking obvious.
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I don't put excuses...I am just pointing out that there aren't that many examples to claim that there is a pattern, especially not if you consider that the male leads who play physical heavy roles, meaning mainly the Chrises, were all cast very young too...the oldest of this bunch is Jeremy Renner, and he was still in his 30s when he was cast. I would be more worried if, for example, Linda Cardinelli weren't Renner's age, but since she is, and Marissa Tomei, no matter how "hot" she looks, also has the fitting age to be Peter Parker's aunt, I am not ready to call fool play just yet.
edited 2nd Jun '16 12:02:14 PM by Swanpride
Eh. I don't think having her exact military history adapted beat for beat is necessary. She needs to be a veteran and authoritative, but nothing there says she has to specifically be a colonel.
edited 2nd Jun '16 12:02:22 PM by comicwriter

Someone mentioned there are captains in their late 20's anyway.