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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

hollygoolightly Since: Apr, 2012 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#57976: May 27th 2016 at 8:31:47 AM

Which one was the Time Stone again? Tesseract was Space, Sceptre was Mind...

[up]I suspect if it can be used to bring someone back from the dead, there will be strings attached to it, so Quicksilver would maybe be Evan Peters, or evil, or whatever.

ETA: Or he'd be Aaron Tyler Johnson's Godzilla character.

Not-Pietro: Brother?! What do you mean, we are married.
Wanda: Uhm...

edited 27th May '16 8:38:38 AM by hollygoolightly

TobiasDrake (•̀⤙•́) (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
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#57977: May 27th 2016 at 8:34:38 AM

We haven't seen the Time Gem yet.

  • Space Gem - Tesseract
  • Reality Gem - Aether
  • Power Gem - That ball from Guardians.
  • Mind Gem - Loki's Scepter
  • Time Gem - Unaccounted for
  • Soul Gem - Unaccounted for

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HallowHawk Since: Feb, 2013
#57978: May 27th 2016 at 8:37:53 AM

[up] That got me thinking: Wouldn't the Soul Gem be best suited for bringing dead folk back from the dead?

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#57979: May 27th 2016 at 8:39:02 AM

It might be a different matter for the Time Stone to bring back someone who died of wounds rather than someone who died of old age.

(Of course I know they aren't going to bring back Peggy, but one can dream...)

hollygoolightly Since: Apr, 2012 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#57980: May 27th 2016 at 8:39:14 AM

[up][up][up]Where do you think it'll show up, Dr. Strange?

edited 27th May '16 8:39:40 AM by hollygoolightly

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#57981: May 27th 2016 at 8:46:42 AM

IIRC Soul Gem was Sealed Evil in a Can in the comics. Not that they can't change it like they did the Mind Stone.

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#57982: May 27th 2016 at 8:48:27 AM

My money's on Soul Gem for Dr. Strange, Time Gem for Ragnarok.

That got me thinking: Wouldn't the Soul Gem be best suited for bringing dead folk back from the dead?

Yes and no. Same goal, different ways to get there. The Soul Gem can resurrect those who've died. The Time Gem can unkill them.

edited 27th May '16 8:48:50 AM by TobiasDrake

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HallowHawk Since: Feb, 2013
#57983: May 27th 2016 at 9:00:39 AM

[up] And I'd take it both Time and Soul will be needed to do a perfect resurrection?

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#57984: May 27th 2016 at 9:13:08 AM

I don't see why they would be. Reversing someone's death should work fine.

The Infinity Gems have a lot of overlap in what they can do on account of the fact that they're so immensely powerful. Like, if you need to get to the other side of the universe, you could use the Space Gem to pop yourself over there or use the Reality Gem to fold space so you can just step there.

Having one is enough to qualify as godlike power. That's why combining the six is such a big deal.

Either Time or Soul should be able to bring the dead back to life. You could probably also do it with the Reality Gem by just warping reality in such a fashion that they aren't dead.

edited 27th May '16 9:15:03 AM by TobiasDrake

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#57985: May 27th 2016 at 9:18:36 AM

The Mind and Power Stones still need nifty names.

Get on it, Marvel.

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KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
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#57986: May 27th 2016 at 9:38:38 AM

Actually, going by the way they've described the Eye of Agamotto, I think that's going to be the Time Stone.

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Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#57987: May 27th 2016 at 10:52:25 AM

Starts neither with H nor with N though....I know it is just a fan theory, but it would be kind of fun if it works out.

Whowho Since: May, 2012
#57988: May 27th 2016 at 11:02:13 AM

T H A N O S

It doesn't actually make a lick of sense though. Because The mad Titan being named after the vessels makes no sense, and the vessels being named after the mad Titan also makes no sense.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#57989: May 27th 2016 at 11:19:27 AM

Yeah, it seems more like an amusing coincidence than anything else.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#57991: May 27th 2016 at 1:04:48 PM

I don't trust the source but that'd be amazing if it's true. Lord and Miller are hilarious.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#57992: May 27th 2016 at 1:07:48 PM

Where do you think it'll show up, Dr. Strange?

It sounds like the Eye of Agamotto will be the Time Stone.

In this film, the Eye is a very important relic that can be quite dangerous if used in the wrong hands, because it has the ability to do any number of things, the most dangerous of which is, it can sort of manipulate probabilities. Which is also another way of saying, ‘screw around with time’ — which is part of our story.

edited 27th May '16 1:07:58 PM by comicwriter

KingNomarch Since: Oct, 2015
#57993: May 27th 2016 at 1:09:37 PM

I don't have any interest in the MCU Spider-Man reboot so I can interested in that if true.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#57994: May 27th 2016 at 2:51:57 PM

T H A N O S It doesn't actually make a lick of sense though. Because The mad Titan being named after the vessels makes no sense, and the vessels being named after the mad Titan also makes no sense.

Infinity Stone in Mjolnir ("Hammer") confirmed.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#57995: May 27th 2016 at 2:59:04 PM

Well...N could stand for Necklace....

MousaThe14 Writer, Artist, Ignored from Northern Virginia Since: Jan, 2011 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
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#57996: May 27th 2016 at 3:05:03 PM

@Bocaj, I thought the Power Stone was supposed to be "The Orb" on account of it being contained in a spherical object and being referred to as such for part of the movie.

And the Mind stone has nifty names. Before it was "The Scepter" and now it's Robot Dad Vision

edited 27th May '16 3:05:50 PM by MousaThe14

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comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#57997: May 27th 2016 at 4:00:13 PM

The names actually add up to S.T.A.N. L.E.E.

yellowturtle from Nowhere Important Since: Feb, 2015 Relationship Status: Coming soon to theaters
#57998: May 27th 2016 at 4:09:04 PM

Stan Lee's next cameo involves him killing Thanos and capturing the infinity gauntlet confirmed!

It's going to be a long cameo.

Crow: There's a plot?
MedusaStone Since: Jan, 2015
#57999: May 27th 2016 at 5:16:49 PM

If Steve had survived the War, not only could he possibly discovered the truth about the Winter Soldier and avoided the deaths of Howard and Maria, Tony would be a very different person. His upbringing would've been very different, and most likely better.

See, he spent his whole childhood being compared to Captain America by his father, and found lacking. Part of that is Howard elevating Steve to sainthood after his death, along with (I suspect) never truly dealing with his own grief. If Steve had lived, Howard would have gotten to know him a lot better and realized that though he was a good man, he still had flaws and faults just like everyone else. And even if Howard had put on blinders and ignored that, the first time Steve caught him treating his son that way he would've hit the roof. Even if he didn't actually take Howard outside and beat the shit out of him, there would definitely be a confrontation. And if Howard got a stiff neck and played the "you can't tell me how to raise my son" card, it wouldn't matter. Now that Steve knew what was happening, he'd go out of his way to spend time with Tony and give him the support and validation and care that he needed, along with Peggy. Tony would think of him as Uncle Steve who was always there for him, instead of the absent Big Brother Tony could never measure up to.

As an adult Tony might still adopt a public persona, but it probably wouldn't consist of him doing his level best to convince the world he was a selfish asshole that didn't give a damn about anyone or anything but himself. And since the issues that caused them would be much reduced, he probably wouldn't be such a hard drinking womanizer, either. I mean, there'd probably be some of that, but not to such toxic levels. If Steve and Peggy had any kids, he wouldn't have to wait until he met Rhodey to have actual friends.

If Iron Man still came to be, it likely wouldn't be fueled by guilt. More likely frustration. Say, Tony comes up with a prototype to solve a problem for the military, but they reject it because they don't want to pay that much for it. The problem is still happening and Tony remembers that time Steve took matters into his own hands and saved a bunch of PO Ws, and decides he'll handle it himself. Because Captain America is a bad influence grin.

... I... had a lot more thoughts about that than I thought I did. Sorry.

FictionWriterKing Since: Apr, 2016
#58000: May 27th 2016 at 5:28:26 PM

Comic the EOA always had the ability to minpluaite time. It can reverse time on an object while Agamotto is a top tier Vishanti who gives Galactus a run for his money

edited 27th May '16 5:33:43 PM by FictionWriterKing


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