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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#57876: May 25th 2016 at 9:59:49 PM

Even Chris is shocked by this Hydra thing. Shame, because he's put a lot of hard work into the character.

Oh well, in the words of Linkara: "time travel, hypnosis, clone, alien duplicate, skrull, Nomad, Commie-Smasher Cap, lingering lycanthropy."

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#57877: May 25th 2016 at 10:00:21 PM

That assumes they're interested in doing an accurate adaptation of Planet Hulk and not just picking and choosing certain elements of it, as they've done in the past with other storylines (Most notably Extremis and Civil War).

edited 25th May '16 10:00:36 PM by comicwriter

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#57878: May 25th 2016 at 10:04:34 PM

If that's the general plot of Ragnarok it seems kind of bland for something that's supposed to be the Winter Soldier of Phase 3.

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#57879: May 25th 2016 at 10:06:39 PM

I'm not sure why the recent Cap twist is being talked about here. It's a comic-only development.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#57880: May 25th 2016 at 10:46:31 PM

Because Chris Evans mentioned it on twitter.

Besides, it's not like the comics are something we're not allowed to talk about or anything.

edited 25th May '16 10:50:11 PM by KnownUnknown

SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#57882: May 25th 2016 at 11:04:27 PM

Daredevil really is Arrow done right.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#57883: May 26th 2016 at 12:08:24 AM

Oh dear, did Arrow really get that bad? Don't watch it.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#57884: May 26th 2016 at 2:51:26 AM

I can't believe that me mentioning liking to read stories Bucky and Falcon lead to everyone announcing their ship (actually I can believe it, it's the internet after all).

I am simply enjoying the interaction between those two characters. Forget Black Panther or Spider-man, those two together are the best part of Civil War.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#57885: May 26th 2016 at 5:19:39 AM

This is better than the actual Cinema Sins vid....

DeathsApprentice The Ultimate Lifeform from The Ark Since: Aug, 2011 Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
The Ultimate Lifeform
#57886: May 26th 2016 at 5:25:53 AM

[up][up] SamBucky is the best. Besides, Winter Falcon is such a cool ship name!

...I need to find more Winter Falcon fanfics.

When we're done, there won't be anything left.
Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#57887: May 26th 2016 at 5:57:50 AM

[up] Well, it's certainly better than Sucky or Fucky....

DeathsApprentice The Ultimate Lifeform from The Ark Since: Aug, 2011 Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
The Ultimate Lifeform
#57888: May 26th 2016 at 6:04:09 AM

Yeah... Portmanteau Couple Name doesn't really work for Sam/Bucky's real names. [lol]

When we're done, there won't be anything left.
hollygoolightly Since: Apr, 2012 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#57889: May 26th 2016 at 6:31:08 AM

[up]I'm somewhat partial to T'Chucky as a name for T'Challa/Bucky myself. and it tickles me that they graduated from crack ship to reasonably likely as far as ships go by the end of the movie But yeah, Falcon/Bucky ship names can be unfortunate. That aside, they do have a great dynamic, and should really get that roadmovie. Maybe a web series before Infinity War?

Current Comic Controversy: that plot happening in the MCU is about as likely as the one where Bucky goes to space. Or the one where Wanda un-mutates all mutants (or was it the other way round?). Or the one where Tony's suit acts like a jealous ex (wait, that kind of happened in IM 3, didn't it.).

edited 26th May '16 6:35:45 AM by hollygoolightly

DeathsApprentice The Ultimate Lifeform from The Ark Since: Aug, 2011 Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
The Ultimate Lifeform
#57890: May 26th 2016 at 6:41:32 AM

I really like T'Chucky as a ship name, mostly because it sounds so silly. tongue I mean, Winter Panther is a perfectly respectable ship name that I've heard being used, but T'Chucky is so great.

And I would watch the hell out of a roadtrip movie featuring Sam and Bucky. Their interactions were golden.

edited 26th May '16 6:42:43 AM by DeathsApprentice

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hollygoolightly Since: Apr, 2012 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#57891: May 26th 2016 at 6:55:40 AM

[up]Yeah, me, too! I mean, it started because T'Challa seemed hellbent on kicking Bucky's butt every time he showed up in the trailer, people should own that!

I bet Mackie and Stan would be perfectly willing to do it, too. Maybe we should start petitioning Feige, or whoever decides these things.

Whowho Since: May, 2012
#57892: May 26th 2016 at 6:58:54 AM

Normally I'm all over polyamarous ships, but dang, Steve and Bucky just does not work for me; there's too much angst and not enough agency.

Captain Falcon is certainly my ship.

Flucky could only work for me if it was the two if them being gay dads for Steve.

DeathsApprentice The Ultimate Lifeform from The Ark Since: Aug, 2011 Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
The Ultimate Lifeform
#57893: May 26th 2016 at 7:03:55 AM

I really like SamSteve as a ship, too. I've enjoyed the idea of them getting together ever since I first saw CA:TWS. But now I'm torn between that and Winter Falcon.

I think I once saw a comic where Sam and Steve fused (a la Steven Universe) to become Captain Falcon. I don't have the link now, though...

When we're done, there won't be anything left.
hollygoolightly Since: Apr, 2012 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#57894: May 26th 2016 at 7:09:00 AM

[up][up]Well, if I was ever into shipping seriously, I'd ship Bucky with therapy and maybe a warm blanket. I've never really bought into the magical healing powers of sex (or in this case, Steve's wondrous abs). But yeah, I like them better as friends partially because that relationship is so entangled and co-dependent and interlaced with guilt, ice and time travel, adding general couple issues to the mix would simply implode the whole mess. But, to each their own, really. If you ship it, ship the hell out of it.

Sam/Steve is awesome. No angst, just two grown up people having a grown up dynamic.

edited 26th May '16 7:09:27 AM by hollygoolightly

DeathsApprentice The Ultimate Lifeform from The Ark Since: Aug, 2011 Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
The Ultimate Lifeform
#57895: May 26th 2016 at 7:14:21 AM

My favorite ship is Bucky/therapy and happiness.

I kind of ship everyone with happiness, honestly. Which means, I guess, happiness Really Gets Around.

edited 26th May '16 7:15:00 AM by DeathsApprentice

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DeathsApprentice The Ultimate Lifeform from The Ark Since: Aug, 2011 Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
The Ultimate Lifeform
#57897: May 26th 2016 at 7:41:54 AM

That's awesome news! Ooh, I hope they make one for Elektra soon. grin

When we're done, there won't be anything left.
yellowturtle from Nowhere Important Since: Feb, 2015 Relationship Status: Coming soon to theaters
#57898: May 26th 2016 at 7:54:15 AM

@Abridged script- I feel like I shouldn't have laughed so much.

Crow: There's a plot?
Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#57899: May 26th 2016 at 7:54:38 AM

  • sigh*...I mean it makes sense to start with Daredevil, but they should have at least announce Jessica Jones and the Punisher at the same time....

TobiasDrake (•̀⤙•́) (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
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#57900: May 26th 2016 at 8:05:15 AM

Regarding the Editing Room gag script on the previous page, I really liked this.

ROBERT DOWNEY JR.

This whole deal is kind of bullshit though. I mean, of COURSE you can trust Captain fucking America, Doing the Right Thing is your biggest superpower. We ALL have idealized levels of true heroism and noble intentions. But in real life you can't trust people with unchecked LEGISLATIVE powers, never mind SUPERpowers. So as long as we're comic-book characters living in a quasi-realistic world, we'll both always be right and always be wrong.

Pretty effectively hits both sides of the argument.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure even rookie-ass baby Peter Parker could have wiped out Daredevil and Jessica by himself before tangling with Luke Cage.

Seriously, the guy's a force to be reckoned with. Between his powerset, his brilliance, his heroic resolve, and the endless psychological warfare that is his constant jabbering, Spider-Man's one of the Marvel U's most formidable characters despite countless people who outclass him in sheer power. In the comics, it's not uncommon to see him performing feats like taking out an entire team of X-Men by himself.

In this movie alone, he mopped the floor with the Winter Goddamned Soldier and barely even seemed to notice. Like, he spends the entire fight chatting it up with Falcon and basically treats Bucky as an afterthought. Even at this young and inexperienced stage of his development, he seems to legitimately not realize that fighting Bucky is supposed to be really, really hard.

edited 26th May '16 8:05:41 AM by TobiasDrake

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