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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Love is Love is Love
#57851: May 25th 2016 at 5:29:10 PM

My MCU OTP is Nelson and Murdock.

My various fanfics.
dRoy Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar from Most likely from my study Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just high on the world
Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar
#57853: May 25th 2016 at 5:37:12 PM

Man, they come out fast.

Continuously reading, studying, and (hopefully) growing.
DeathsApprentice The Ultimate Lifeform from The Ark Since: Aug, 2011 Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
The Ultimate Lifeform
#57854: May 25th 2016 at 6:58:14 PM

CHRIS EVANS

So, we're caught. Hm, I wonder who this mysterious newcomer is, with his ripped body, skin-tight black bodysuit and sexy sharp fingernails... er, um, I mean, beer and sports! Har har. War is hell.

...I ship it.

TOM HOLLAND

That's amazing! To think, of all the various New York heroes you could have reached out to, you chose the dorky awkward teenager you saw on You Tube!

ROBERT DOWNEY JR.

C'mon, like there's any proper adult superheroes in New York? Ha! Certainly none ever mentioned in major newspapers, or with a publicly known detective agency! Ha ha!

CHARLIE COX & KRYSTEN RITTER & MIKE COLTER

(glare)

[lol]

edited 25th May '16 7:03:09 PM by DeathsApprentice

When we're done, there won't be anything left.
Discar Since: Jun, 2009
#57855: May 25th 2016 at 7:52:41 PM

I know I'm examining the joke too much, but as far as anyone knows Daredevil is just an unpowered vigilante (and powers aside, he regularly gets beaten half to death by ordinary mooks), Jessica isn't very high up the power scale and isn't very good about collateral damage, and Luke Cage isn't well-known yet. Well, neither is Jessica, but Cage is even less so. Peter was the perfect one to grab because he's a hero who can survive a truck to the face and he has abilities well-suited to taking someone out non-lethally.

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Guy01 Since: Mar, 2015
#57856: May 25th 2016 at 7:56:02 PM

[up]Plus, in all honesty, chances are pretty good Jessica would've been drunk when Tony showed up.

Ok, who let Light Yagami in here?
SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Love is Love is Love
#57857: May 25th 2016 at 8:05:21 PM

Yeah, I'm pretty sure even rookie-ass baby Peter Parker could have wiped out Daredevil and Jessica by himself before tangling with Luke Cage.

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AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#57858: May 25th 2016 at 8:05:53 PM

[up][up]

Then her and Tony could go out for a drink.

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Watchtower Since: Jul, 2010
#57859: May 25th 2016 at 8:11:20 PM

Jessica Jones confuses me, power-set-wise. She's clearly supposed to be Unskilled, but Strong, but for some reason doesn't seem strong enough despite having super-strength. It's weird.

Cross (Don’t ask)
#57860: May 25th 2016 at 8:16:19 PM

I think she generally is, but she is not always in the best condition, like during her fight with Simpson.

Plus, in all honesty, chances are pretty good Jessica would've been drunk when Tony showed up.
Tony then learns how it feels to be on the other side of this.

Then her and Tony could go out for a drink.
For some reason I believe this end in a drinking contest where they both lose.

edited 25th May '16 8:17:32 PM by Cross

AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#57861: May 25th 2016 at 8:19:07 PM

And then the bartender wins, of course, because Tony foots the bill.

All of this makes me wish they'd put the Netflix and ABC characters in Infinity War, to be honest.

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Galadriel Since: Feb, 2015
#57862: May 25th 2016 at 8:19:46 PM

[up][up]Somehow I'm envisioning that ending in Tony trying to hit on and/or grope her and getting his arm broken for his trouble. Two drunk people with poor impulse control, one of whom is a notorious womanizer and the other of whom is a sexual assault survivor, is not going to end well.

edited 25th May '16 8:20:31 PM by Galadriel

Watchtower Since: Jul, 2010
#57863: May 25th 2016 at 8:22:04 PM

One thing I've noticed is that she seems to have a really hard time against multiple opponents. Several times she punches Guy A only for Guy B to get her behind the back, and one time it knocked her right out.

I get that she doesn't have the reflexes or the durability, but it's jarring seeing Daredevil dance around a dozen armed thugs while she can get just barely handle three or four.

Cross (Don’t ask)
#57864: May 25th 2016 at 8:24:28 PM

That's pretty much the unskilled part.

[up][up]I don't think Tony has gone that far. We know he has one-night stands, but that is where the womanizing really ends.

edited 25th May '16 8:26:49 PM by Cross

AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#57865: May 25th 2016 at 8:26:49 PM

Well that and Daredevil's got those super senses going on.

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DeathsApprentice The Ultimate Lifeform from The Ark Since: Aug, 2011 Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
The Ultimate Lifeform
#57866: May 25th 2016 at 8:27:00 PM

[up][up][up][up] I would love to watch that. [lol]

edited 25th May '16 8:27:17 PM by DeathsApprentice

When we're done, there won't be anything left.
alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#57867: May 25th 2016 at 8:35:35 PM

Yeah, even Red Skull is saying "Are you kidding me?!" beyond the grave.
The Red Skull is alive in the Marvel Universe and actually stole Xavier's brain and put it into his own, so now he has telepathy.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#57868: May 25th 2016 at 8:47:41 PM

The entire reason Tony went after Spider-Man is because he felt his squad didn't necessarily have enough manpower to subdue Team Cap. Daredevil brings nothing to the table that Black Panther and Black Widow don't already possess (Widow even has the batons!), and Luke and Jessica just want to be left the hell alone. They'd never side with Stark, especially when Luke is already a fugitive.

Also Spider-Man has the ability to non-lethally restrain people from a distance, which is something that was implied Tony was very interested in. He even tells Spider-Man to hang back and just use his webs instead of actually fighting.

edited 25th May '16 8:55:08 PM by comicwriter

AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#57869: May 25th 2016 at 8:51:29 PM

And Peter is a kid, so he's easier for Tony to bully into helping him.

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Funny but not helpful
#57870: May 25th 2016 at 8:52:14 PM

Tony and Jessica actually have a lot in common

They should never meet. Ever.

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comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#57871: May 25th 2016 at 9:23:15 PM

Some rumors about the plot of Ragnarok.

Cate Blanchett had been rumored to play Hela for many months before she was confirmed by Marvel last week, with the rumor claiming that Hela has teamed up with Thor's evil brother Loki. This new villainous team reportedly kicks Thor out of Asgard, while destroying his hammer Mjolnir. It's been rumored that Thor ends up on a "gladiator" planet where he's forced to fight the current champion, Hulk.

edited 25th May '16 9:23:38 PM by comicwriter

AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#57872: May 25th 2016 at 9:28:14 PM

And somehow the Hulk is bigger now, too.

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#57873: May 25th 2016 at 9:39:07 PM

How did Hulk get on the planet? And what were the odds that Thor would land on the very planet that the Hulk happens to be on?

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#57874: May 25th 2016 at 9:42:12 PM

Somehow, I can't interpret: "Thor ends up on a "gladiator" planet where he's forced to fight the current champion, Hulk." as being anything other than Planet Hulk.

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#57875: May 25th 2016 at 9:47:52 PM

So far it's all rumor. And I'm not so certain they would really adapt Planet Hulk in that way because:

1. If Thor is taking the place of Beta Ray Bill / the Silver Surfer, well, neither of them played a big role in the storyline besides "Hulk's last opponent who frees him from the ring".

2. Adapting Planet Hulk in such a way distracts from the latter half where Hulk leads the resistance against the Red King. That's where his character development really happens. Thor arriving and meeting Hulk would cause that to be overshadowed by his own plot over at Asgard.


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