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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

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#57651: May 23rd 2016 at 5:22:59 PM

Between Infinity War 1 and Captain Marvel. Scott sure gets sandwiched by heavy hitters again.

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AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#57652: May 23rd 2016 at 5:24:08 PM

They'll probably use Infinity War Part 1 to figure things out. You don't just sideline Michael friggin' Douglas.

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comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#57653: May 23rd 2016 at 5:55:06 PM

I don't think Ant-Man & The Wasp will be heavily connected to Infinity War.

No Kingpin in Homecoming.

Watchtower Since: Jul, 2010
#57654: May 23rd 2016 at 5:57:19 PM

Just as I've gotten myself hyped as fuck for Infinity War, I've now, over a year later, become somewhat upset that Quicksilver's dead. I don't even necessarily care about Quicksilver himself so much as I can't think of any other Marvel speedsters except the Whizzer, and that makes me cry. sad

edited 23rd May '16 5:58:07 PM by Watchtower

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#57655: May 23rd 2016 at 5:58:31 PM

What about Speed? Or whatever Wanda's soul child was called

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Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#57656: May 23rd 2016 at 5:59:31 PM

[up][up]Watching the Civil War big team battle made me a little sad imagining what speed hijinks Quicksilver could've done.

Watchtower Since: Jul, 2010
#57657: May 23rd 2016 at 6:05:52 PM

[up] The airport fight was fucking amazing, and you know the Russos are gonna pull all the stops once they have all the MCU heroes in one battleground.

Just thinking back to his fight scenes in AOU brings a bit of a tear in my eye.

AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#57658: May 23rd 2016 at 6:11:03 PM

Meh, I'm fine with him not being there.

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comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#57659: May 23rd 2016 at 6:11:41 PM

Super-speed is a notorious Story-Breaker Power but hopefully they could have found a way to make him work. He did seem to be slower than his comic counterpart.

edited 23rd May '16 6:12:27 PM by comicwriter

higherbrainpattern Since: Apr, 2012
#57660: May 23rd 2016 at 6:16:59 PM

Hey, who says Quicksilver couldn't come back for Infinity War? tongue

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#57661: May 23rd 2016 at 6:19:25 PM

Marvel seems pretty adamant he's dead. I mean, Lying Creator could be in effect, but every time the possibility is brought up, Feige shoots it down and says he doesn't want it to turn into another Coulson case.

edited 23rd May '16 6:22:29 PM by comicwriter

SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
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#57662: May 23rd 2016 at 6:19:51 PM

Life Gem, bitches.

EDIT: Or Soul or Reality

edited 23rd May '16 6:20:11 PM by SonOfSharknado

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RBluefish Since: Nov, 2013
#57663: May 23rd 2016 at 6:20:47 PM

Man, I really hope that the MCU avoids the ancient comic-book pitfall of death becoming utterly meaningless. I mean, whenever I hear the latest news about whatever major superhero is totally dead for good this time, no seriously for real this time, my first thought is always "wonder when they'll be back."

I mean, they've already brought back Coulson, which was a pretty big mistake in my opinion. If it escalates to comic-book levels, it'll suck the tension out of things in a serious way.

"We'll take the next chance, and the next, until we win, or the chances are spent."
comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#57664: May 23rd 2016 at 6:23:01 PM

I agree. I would like it if they had something like Thanos or Hela using his soul to taunt Wanda.

Or if in Ragnarok, Thor passes by him in Hel and goes "Wait, was that..?"

edited 23rd May '16 6:23:25 PM by comicwriter

AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#57665: May 23rd 2016 at 6:23:04 PM

But now we have Agents of SHIELD, which is incredibly underrated and so damn awesome!

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RBluefish Since: Nov, 2013
#57666: May 23rd 2016 at 6:24:19 PM

I never made it through the first season of Agents of Shield, if I'm being honest.

"We'll take the next chance, and the next, until we win, or the chances are spent."
Whowho Since: May, 2012
#57667: May 23rd 2016 at 6:25:16 PM

I'd say recently MARVEL has gotten ahold of making death meaningful again; narratives now focuses on how death effects the characters loved ones. Even in universe people know that ressurections are a matter of time and networking, but they still are miserable over not being able to see their loved one again for an unknown number of years.

edited 23rd May '16 6:27:26 PM by Whowho

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#57668: May 23rd 2016 at 6:26:10 PM

[up][up]

You've missed a lot of good stuff, then.

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#57669: May 23rd 2016 at 6:26:11 PM

I'd like if Infinity War has a moment where all the dead characters ride again in one last moment of glory, briefly resurrected to act as The Cavalry.

Now, who that'd actually be is difficult. Quicksilver, Peggy and..... (...)

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RBluefish Since: Nov, 2013
#57670: May 23rd 2016 at 6:28:50 PM

[up][up] Everybody's always talking about it - I suppose I really should give it another shot sometime.

At least it isn't required viewing if I want to understand other events in the MCU, do to how loosely it apparently ties into the rest of the universe. Which is convenient for me, but I understand it to be something of a point of contention for the show's fans.

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#57671: May 23rd 2016 at 6:31:08 PM

At least one thing in it ties into Age of Ultron, actually.

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VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#57672: May 23rd 2016 at 6:33:15 PM

By that he means the tv show inserts a way to be relevant to the climax. No one on Agents is spoken of or referenced at all during Age of Ultron.

AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#57673: May 23rd 2016 at 6:34:54 PM

Yeah, that's what I meant. Outside of Nick Fury appearing like twice (which if you've seen part of Season 1 you've seen his first appearance) and a few other characters from the films appearing, there's not much connection.

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RBluefish Since: Nov, 2013
#57674: May 23rd 2016 at 6:36:28 PM

Oh, right - it explains where he got the Helicarrier he used in the climax or something like that, right?

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AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#57675: May 23rd 2016 at 6:40:00 PM

Yep.

There's another thing that ties into the Avengers, but spoilers.

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